Talk:American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers

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Early Radio[edit]

"Radio stations originally only broadcast performers live, the performers working for free. Later, performers wanted to be paid and recorded performances became more prevalent."

This makes no sense. Some performers played for free at various times in exchange for advertising their upcoming live venue performances, but certainly plenty of early radio performers were paid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.198.3.57 (talk) 17:28, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Karaoke[edit]

How can they POSSIBLY charge karaoke places to perform songs? Say I have a karaoke machine with 6000 songs. Does this machine submit which song is played back over the internet to a central server? I don't think so. This money they collect must be randomly distributed. If you are an obscure artist on a karaoke machine, you're not going to see much of it, if any, are you? 68.167.161.182 (talk) 01:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


ASCAP has been harassing a bar owner near me, regarding karaoke. Considering that most karaoke collections are already copyright nightmares (unauthorized covers performed by no-name bands), how can they justify threatening lawsuits? I do not understand how the original artist or the no-name performer could possibly receive any benefit from bars giving money to ASCAP. I'd be interested in seeing more information about this subject. 68.13.125.163 (talk) 03:55, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Awards[edit]

What is meant by the phrase, "ASCAP has an extensive awards program?" I know some of the awards listed aren't given by ASCAP. For instance, the Golden Globes are given by the Holywood Foreign Press and the NAACP Image Awards are, obviously handed out by the NAACP. Am I right about this list being off, or is there something I'm missing? --djrobgordon 06:11, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, "extensive" is an accurate description as it does not mean "all-inclusive." Also, the term was meant to refer to the number of music-related awards hosted by ASCAP, of which I think are many considering it is just one organization. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jabberwiki (talkcontribs) 01:59, 20 January 2006 (UTC).

Article name[edit]

As can be verified on the ASCAP website, there is no comma after "Authors" in the full name of the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers. When I attempted to fix this, I found that the correct article title is used as a redirect to the wrong one. — Athaenara 00:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

(Request posted on Wikipedia:Requested moves#Uncontroversial proposals. — A. 01:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC))

(Fixed by GTBacchus. — A. 08:48, 10 June 2007 (UTC))

CMA/ASCAP award for Adventurous Programming[edit]

Can information about the CMA/ASCAP award for Adventurous Programming be added? 131.123.231.143 21:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

needs some discussion of anti-trust issues[edit]

ASCAP has long been controversial on antitrust grounds, as an organization dedicated to copyright pooling by ostensible competitors. They've been sued numerous times, and have lost some cases while winning others. An overview of this would be useful. A few references that specifically discuss ASCAP-related cases (as opposed to only the more general copyright-pooling issue):

  • "Copyright Pooling and the Anti-Trust Laws". The University of Chicago Law Review. 17 (1): 183–194. 1949. 
  • "ASCAP and the Antitrust Laws: The Story of a Reasonable Compromise". Duke Law Journal. 1959 (2): 258–277. 1959. 
  • Ted K. Ringsred (1992). "Is Anticompetitive Misuse a Defense to Copyright Infringement?". ASCAP Copyright Law Symposium 39. pp. 165–200. 

--Delirium 16:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Nimbit[edit]

Added info about Nimbit partnership. Included redlink because I'm in the process of writing the article now. ~kevin talkemail 17:43, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

All set, no one even SAW that redlink :) ~kevin talkemail 18:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

payments to artists?[edit]

How do they determine how much a composer should get? I would think "Blowing in the Wind" would be worth quite a bit more than some forgettable one-hit-wonder, but also that it would be dependent on the times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.82.53 (talk) 12:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Copy-edit recommended[edit]

This article reads inconsistently. Of particular note: the Non-exclusive section is mostly written in the 2nd-person. ~E 74.60.29.141 (talk) 21:20, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this article needs to be rewritten. I found nothing about ASCAP's battles with BMI during the payola scandal era of the late 1950's and ASCAP finally realizing that rock was here to stay and try to attract more rock/R&B/country acts culminating with Motown joining ASCAP in 1971. Also, check out this source which seems to be the definitive ASCAP history book. [1]. Steelbeard1 (talk) 13:22, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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Use after composer's name[edit]

In some concert booklet, a composer was announced as John Doe ASCAP. What does this mean? Wikispaghetti (talk) 20:48, 27 September 2015 (UTC)