Talk:American Zoetrope

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George Lucas co-founder?[edit]

I could be wrong but I don't think George Lucas had anything to do with the founding of American Zoetrope, I believe that it was only Francis Ford Coppola that had founded the company while Mr. Lucas was busy with his Lucasfilms and Industrial Light & Magic companies. Is there any verifiable source to back the George Lucas founding American Zoetrope statement? (talk) 05:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Around 1969, Coppola founded Zoetrope. Lucas was listed as vice-president in the incorporation papers. They had a run-down warehouse in San Francisco that they carved up into a crude studio and offices. Zoetrope made a deal with Warner Brothers. Warner thought they were getting the next Easy Rider supervised by Coppola and instead they got THX-1138 by Lucas. The deal collapsed after warner brothers saw the finished film. Zoetrope (first incarnation) collapsed. Lucas (and everyone else) walked away. Lucas then founded Lucasfilm in the aftermath in 1971. (talk) 02:33, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Article has serious problems[edit]

This article lacks any accurate coverage of the subject. The details of the founding are wrong. The multiple bankrupcies and reorganizations in the 1980s are missing as are the changes in name. The establishment and loss of the physical studio is also missing. Equally amusing is how the studio was able to produce so many films years before it was even founded. (talk) 02:04, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Excellent point! I have started to try and tidy and correct the filmographies, subdividing the two companies output and will work on other points as & when I can. Manxwoman (talk) 14:12, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Titles to include[edit]

It's unclear why a number of titles have been removed from the list of Zoetrope films, these are all on the Zoetrope list here, and many are also listed at IMDb:

Coda: Thirty Years Later

A few of them are films directed by Coppola before Zoetrope was founded, but many of the others are not.NoMatterTryAgain (talk) 20:38, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

I was using the iMDB page as the definitive as this page ONLY deals with American Zoetrope films, obviously after its founding and those listed as such at iMDB, being the official listing page. Sorry if I got some wrong, but it is the source listing and does not include the films listed above... Napoleon for instance is not a Zoetrope film, but a Kevin Brownlow restoration, Godfather(1) and American Graffiti are also not Zoetrope films according to Coppolas biography. I am intending on including films that Coppola directed etc, that are not Zoetrope films on his personal page. Hope that makes sense. Manxwoman (talk) 01:31, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Jean-Luc Godard, Akira Kurosawa?[edit]

Does anyone know what films by these directors were made by American Zoetrope? Its mentioned in the article, but I'm not sure what it is referring to. (talk) 09:51, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Kurosawas Kagemusha and Goddards Sauve qui peut (la vie) were both produced and distributed by Zoetrope. Does that help? But they were missing from the list and I have now added them. Thanks for the heads-up! Manxwoman (talk) 16:50, 1 December 2012 (UTC)