Talk:Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990

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Apparent whitewashing of issue of perception of ADA[edit]

User:Aponoka removed certain longstanding text (that I had originally inserted) at this edit on 2 September 2014. It appears that User:Aponoka is POV-pushing. The critique made by The Onion article is notable, incisive, and accurate in that it correctly reflects the perception then and now of the ADA. (Notice how I am referring to the perception, not whether that perception itself is accurate.) After all, the joke that they were trying to make would have made no sense if the perception of the audience were otherwise. If I don't see any good reasons to the contrary, I will be putting that back in soon. --Coolcaesar (talk) 10:01, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay, no objections, here goes. --Coolcaesar (talk) 03:27, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry--I hadn't seen this earlier. But upon looking, I would strongly suggest removing this section. First, there appears to be no active link (at least at this point) to the law review article you cite, so without accessing a law library, I'm not sure what point was made there. But upon reading the Onion article itself (written eight years after the ADA was passed, I question whether it actually was a satire of the ADA at all. It seems far more a satire of the pop culture idea of the talentless slacker, as well as middle management positions.

But even if one accepts your (and the referenced law review's) claim that this Onion piece is a satire of the ADA, it still seems a tenuous example of criticism of the ADA at best. Wikipedia is built on primary sources, not secondary interpretations of pop culture satire. The rest of section 3 contains actual primary examples of criticism. This does not, and I respectfully would argue that it does not belong here. Mgllama (talk) 20:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Propose Deletion of Section 3.1[edit]

Section 3.1, title "Abuse," consists of a few sentences centered around an Onion article (seriously!) which is neither noteworthy nor particularly relevant. Unless there is more that people can add under this topic, I suggest that the whole bit be deleted. Any objections? Mgllama (talk) 20:03, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Realized that this was discussed earlier--will address it there. Sorry. Mgllama (talk) 20:06, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Linkfarm[edit]

IMHO the long list of External links is excessive, but I'm not sure which can be deleted and which to keep. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:25, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Here is the list, I've stuck the ones I think should go:

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American with disabilities act[edit]

Was enacted during the Clinton administration, it wasn't signed into law by George W. Bush. If you can not publish factual information, then the validity of the informaiton on your site is questionable. Despite how you feel about the people responsible for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.36.173.249 (talk) 16:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

The original Act was signed into law on July 26, 1990, by President George H. W. Bush. The Amendment Act was signed into law on September 25, 2008 by President George W. Bush with changes effective January 1, 2009. President Bill Clinton was not in office in any of those years (he was in office from January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001).   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 11:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Merge/Move/? with ADA litigation in United States and More Limiting Cases and[edit]

There is an article ADA Litigation in the United States that is a stub of a couple of cases (well actually denials of cert) about the ADA. Would it be more appropriate to move the more extensive list of cases here to that page (or simply redirect it here?). Sorry I usually only ever edit math pages where this stuff doesn't come up as much.

The number of major cases described on this page is quite nice but if anyone happens to know of cases limiting ADA application it would be nice to include some limiting cases too if anyone knows some important ones off the top of their head. Excepting the two cases about the internet none of the decisions limit the scope of ADA applicability and it seems like having both sorts of decisions would be more informative. Of course I don't know what ADA cases are important hence the talk page post but some editor might. Peter M. Gerdes (talk) 21:05, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I noticed there is already a comment about the ADA lit in US page and I'm going to add at least one limiting case myself (is there any order to the cases in the section?) which probably renders this whole new section pointless but one isn't supposed to delete talk comments so... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter M Gerdes (talkcontribs) 21:15, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

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It doesn't effectively prohibit discrimination.[edit]

Anti-disabled discrimination and anti-disabled policies are everywhere in America. And the government's own interpretation mandates discrimination, intead of prohibiting it: http://www.ada.gov/1991standards/1991standards-archive.html 108.48.94.155 (talk) 19:35, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

But it does prohibit discrimination against the physically disabled for newer structures. Doesn't mean that the government enforces it. epic genius (talk) 20:40, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
I have sensory processing disorder. It mandates strobe lights. The particular frequencies might not be an issue for people with photosensitive epilepsy, but they definitely can be painfully disorientng and painfully incapacitating for some of us with sensory processing disorder. 108.48.94.155 (talk) 12:47, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Discrimination isn't the same as accommodation, though, and that's why I noted that this law is not particularly enforced. epic genius (talk) 15:03, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
I just reverted an attempt to add an unsourced assertion about the ADA guidelines on strobe lights to the article. It's not enough to cite to the guidelines themselves and then trash them in the very next clause with no support cited for that criticism. Under WP:NOR, you must find a reliable source published elsewhere which specifically asserts that the Access Board made the wrong public policy choice in favor of other types of persons with disabilities and threw epileptics under the bus, then add a citation to that. You cannot use Wikipedia as a first publisher of original research. WP:NOR is non-negotiable. --Coolcaesar (talk) 22:28, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

This section had been removed on March 7th of lat year, on the grounds of "Removing sections that do not appear to be about the article content"

This is directly relevant to the content - the article claims that the act prohibits discrimination against disabled people, so the article should discuss ways that it has been interpreted to mandate violence and other discrimination against some disabled people. 173.66.5.216 (talk) 22:09, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

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