Talk:Ana Aslan

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The article lacks balance, casting its subject in too favourable a light. Biruitorul 04:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

An interesting article of 1971 about Ana Aslan, once a worldfamous quack and a heavily subsidised darling of the worldinfamous Ceauşescu regime can be read at http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF001971/Skerly/Skerly06/Skerly06.html

"In another corner of Europe, in the fascinating Byzantine and Latin metropolis of Bucharest, another "youth" doctor holds court. Dr. Ana Aslan is known as the uncrowned queen of Romania. In an unlikely scenario for a Communist state, she is the pampered and subsidized darling of the government, a grande dame whose every whim is granted. It's not because her elixir keeps the leadership young and vital, but a simple matter of economics. Mme. Aslan is a major hard currency producer for this underdeveloped East European country. According to Imeco Export-Import in Bucharest, export of the Aslan rejuvenator, "Gerovital H3", reaps an annual six to seven million dollars (one million from Switzerland alone). By international trade standards, the sum may appear modest. For Romania, dominated by the Soviet bloc it is a lot. Mme. Aslan bolsters the local economy as well by "importing" foreigners under the category of "patient-tourist." A massive state apparatus, involving the Romanian ministries of health, tourism and trade, is responsible for international marketing and publicity services. All you need for the Bucharest miracle, via Vienna for example, are two weeks and approximately 400 dollars (in 1971) (flights, hotel and injections inclusive)."

Her therapies have been recognised as bogus since the 1960 by the FDA. Because of the succesful and glib rethoric of the very professional promotion campaigns, the Aslan therapies are still popular among quacks and still make victims among gullible patients.

FDA is far for being "everyone".[edit]

True, in other words the 6-7 million were not the real reason why Ceauşescu supported the use of the drug, but because it was a ROMANIAN product. That was the reason. Also, the fact that FDA did not approve the drug is not a reason to consider a drug as being a hoax, because FDA it is well known of stopping many drugs as being too natural. Many are saying that GH3 was not approved by FDA, not because of it's power for anti aging, but because the findings of Ana Aslan showed that the drug is also curring some other disease. Also the death rate is minimized in some conditions as shown in her documents presented and APPROVED by European Congress of Gerontology.

The above paragraph (written by another author), like the biographical page on Dr. Aslan, contains a few unsubstantiated opinions. To clarify, the FDA has never denied or withdrawn approval for a drug based on its "being too natural." All FDA applications are public documents, as are all decisions concerning drug approval and all evidence presented (by the manufacturer and other parties) to the FDA in favor of and against its approval. The process is not carried out in back rooms or in secret. The public is always invited to comment and attend, or even testify at, FDA meetings concerning the approval process for any drug. Denial of approval by the FDA, of course, is not evidence that the drug is a hoax because the FDA does not address the question of whether drugs are hoaxes. They are concerned with the safety and effectiveness of drugs, and the fraudulent promotion of drugs.

Procaine HCl (the primary active ingredient in GH3) has been available in the US as an injection since 1905. Since then, in light of newer safety evidence concerning allergic reactions, breathing difficulties, and circulatory problems, and the introduction of the safer alternative Xylocaine (lidocaine) in 1948, its use has declined, but it remains an approved drug under the FDA for specified clinical uses.

In truth, there is nothing natural about the formula in GH3. Its components are synthetic. In 1994, the US Congress actually deregulated most natural and traditional medicines, classifying them as Dietary Supplements. Although they still fall under the regulation of the FDA, they are more widely available today in the US than ever before.

A thorough review of the research literature shows that GH3 simply has no effect on any signs of aging. It has been tested thoroughly in several countries. Couple this lack of evidence supporting effectiveness with the risk of systemic introduction of a potential allergen, and there you will find the basis for the FDA's lack of approval. Many Americans endorse the FDAs function of keeping ineffective and potentially dangerous drugs off the market, and all the evidence from controlled studies (many cited on the Wikipedia page for Gerovital-H3) support that view of GH3.

The claim that the FDA withheld approval due to the number of diseases it is purported to cure is also specious. All FDA-approved antibiotics cure a wide variety of diseases. Aspirin and codeine (FDA-approved drugs) both treat numerous conditions effectively. The only FDA limitation on the number of symptoms or diseases a drug is approved to treat is that a New Drug Application (NDA) is required for each use and each delivery method of that drug. Each use is approved or denied based on evidence presented by the manufacturer supporting the safety and effectiveness of each use. No GH3 manufacturer has provided evidence of either to the FDA, despite the enormous profit motive for gaining access to the American market.

Finally, information concerning the "European Congress [of/for] [Clinical] Gerontology" is extremely difficult to find online. A number of research conferences have been held with similar names, but such conferences neither approve nor endorse any product or scientific finding. The only approval involved in a research conference is approval to present data to research colleagues. Presentation of new data at a research conference marks the beginning of scientific debate as to the validity of the presenter's claims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.174.110.147 (talk) 03:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Article needs either massive re-edit, or deletion[edit]

As written, this is largely a spam-article for the alleged life-extending product "Gerovital H3". The article needs to be completely re-written, from a WP:NPOV, including a relative balance of conclusions by the worlds top peer-reviewed medical establishments on the merits (or lack thereof) for Gerovital H3. If the consensus of these top peer-reviewed journals is that Gerovital H3 is a hoax, then this should be the overall tone of the article, with a section for defenders if appropriate. I am tempted to nominate this article for deletion, {polite-afd|articlename}. Instead, for now, I will tag it with the appropriate cleanup tags -- it needs a lot of re-writing. Some of the comments above, in this Talk page, including the reference and quotation offered, suggest an appropriate focus. Much of the hype over "Gerovital H3" reflects sad aspects in the Romanian history of medicine. DocSven 19:58, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it should be deleted because, controversial or not, Dr. Aslan was a person who raised a lot of public interest at her time, there are still clinics using her name (I don't know if licensed or not), and Gerovital is still widely sold, quackery or not. Don't get me wrong, I strongly believe that Gerovital is snake oil, but I fell upon the article out of curiosity about what had become of her, remembering the frenzy of her heyday (I am 47 and in need of Gerovital... ;-) after just seeing oral Gerovital H3 being sold over the counter at a local pharmacy (I live in Brazil).
However, there is already an article about Gerovital on Wikipedia. I think the current article was supposed to be a biographical one, but it only has a very short paragraph about Dr. Aslan herself. This is what I find most inappropriate, and coupled with the ostensible advertising tone, this is a serious candidate for the title of worst article I have seen on Wikipedia! If someone has access to more (and objective) biographical data about Dr. Aslan, it would be nice if it could be added to this article (and the advertising removed).
--UrsoBR (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Before throwing mud[edit]

Please read what others have to say:

http://www.canadianprescriptionsavers.com/articles/article-procaine_hydrochloride.html

Excerpts from the above Web site:

"In 1970 Dr Alfred Sapse renewed interest in GH3. While serving his internship in Romania, Dr Sapse met those treated by Dr Aslan, and was able to study the research documents.

When asked why he decided to revive interest in GH3, Dr Sapse, referring to Dr Aslan's patients, replied "Their ailments were either gone or greatly regressed, at least to the point where they did not bother these old people. I know what I saw. it was incredible.13"

"Dr P. Luth of the Municipal Hospital Offenbach/Main, Germany has conducted extensive research using GH3 over many years. By directly injecting GH3 into geriatric patients, Dr Luth has noted the dramatic change in appearance and behaviour of those he has treated. Dramatic improvements in skin conditions, sleep patterns, blood pressure and heart arrhythmia have proved common in those receiving GH3.21"

Alarmingly enough, it takes entities from Canada or Mexico or Europe to convince FDA that a certain medicine/vitamin/dietary supplement is better than the ones existing in US.

See: SANDOZ Calcium (somehow FDA managed to reject SANDOZ), Bayer Aspirin (about the only European pill that made it into the States, together with the VW beetle), and last but not least, the most recent contraceptives (did FDA approve those, or still thinking about it, for the next 10 years, until US develops their own version, and then have a "valid" reason for rejecting European products???)

Anti-Romanians need not reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.214.213 (talk) 12:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I got rid of a sentence[edit]

One sentence went out of its way to say there was no peer reviewed etc. and that there were serious side effects etc but I had little difficulty in finding peer reviewed material. It just wasn't in English. I think someone had an axe to grind! Gingermint (talk) 23:32, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

communist myth, nothing scientific[edit]

I can't believe this article. This anti-aging stuff about procaine is communist mytholohgy! It seriously lacks real scientific foundation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.102.61.162 (talk) 20:28, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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