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Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Xoloz (talk) 02:10, 7 March 2014 (UTC)



AnabaptistAnabaptistsBaptists is at the plural form. the singular is the term for a person who is an anabaptist. the groups article should conform to naming conventions here. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 16:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

  • Groups of people are at plural titles, yes. Support Red Slash 17:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. Definitely sensible move. ~ ScitDeiWanna talk? 05:13, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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Requested move 19 August 2016[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 08:33, 29 August 2016 (UTC)


AnabaptistsAnabaptism – As has been indicated by the bold text in the first sentence of the lead for over a year, this article is not primarily about Anabaptist people(s), but rather is about Anabaptism, their theology and religious tradition (and the history thereof). This usage is in line with all other articles about Protestant denominations (e.g, Lutheranism, Adventism, Methodism, Anglicanism) with only one exception that I know of: Baptists.

That is a unique case as the term Baptism is not generally used (in or outside of Wikipedia) to refer to the Baptists' religious tradition because it is easily confused with the sacramental rite from which they derive their name. The term Anabaptism, however, does not have the same issue, hence its widespread use to refer to the subject of this article. While the word is derived from the Greek ἀναβαπτισμός (ἀνά- meaning "re-" and βαπτισμός meaning "baptism"), in modern English, the term Anabaptism does not normally refer to the practice of believer's baptism (or credobaptism or adult baptism) more generally.

I should also note that this move will bring the name in line with that of the corresponding portal. Graham (talk) 20:54, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Support: a common term in RSes. Nobody uses it for the practise of rebaptizing. --JFH (talk) 22:14, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm not opposed to the move, but it's not a common term as it's not an ism. NGram for the two terms. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:05, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
The same can be said of other common isms: ngram. This is just because people are more likely to refer to Anabaptist people and Anabaptist things than the abstract movement. A quick look at the top Google book results for Anabaptist shows that the same books also refer to Anabaptism.--JFH (talk) 17:29, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Exactly. So why do we insist on using the "ism" suffix rather than noun? Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:03, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Because the article is primarily about the theological and religious tradition itself rather than about the people who subscribe to the tradition. It's the same reason we have an article about liberalism rather than one about liberals. Similarly, we have separate articles about Judaism and Jews (though of course the latter is an ethnoreligious group rather than a solely religious group). Graham (talk) 18:23, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
I'd say it's a mix of the people vs the tradition and mores. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:44, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Granted there is currently more weight on history in the article than perhaps there ought to be (resulting in it being a little more people-y), but to the extent the article's subject (or that which the article's subject ought to be) is a mix of the two, would that statement not be equally applicable to liberalism? Graham (talk) 21:50, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support for consistency. — JFG talk 00:01, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

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Predating the Reformation[edit]

I would like to see where in the article the idea that was added to the lede is supported. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:43, 3 November 2016 (UTC)