Talk:Anacréon

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One article for two operas[edit]

This article refers to two quite different operas which chance to share only the title and the music composer: plots, characters and music have got nothing in common but the poet Anacreon as the protagonist, and librettists are likewise different. Referring to these works as if they were successive “versions” (of the same opera) seems substantially improper. As the article already states, the first Anacréon was originally given at Fontainebleau as an single acte de ballet; the second one is nothing else but a late further entrée of the opéra-ballet Les surprises de l'Amour, and ought maybe to be better dealt with in the article concerning the main opera, in the same way as, for instance, the entrée Les sauvages, later added to Les Indes galantes, is not the subject-matter of a specific article.

On the grounds of the foregoing observations, unless anybody raises any objections, I would like to do what follows, within next month.

Firstly: I purpose to expand the article Les surprises de l'Amour, by creating specific sections for each entrée and by giving (as far as possible) the casts of its successive main stagings; one of the sections should be devoted to the second Anacréon.

Secondly: I think that the present article should be restricted to dealing only with the first Anacréon, just a simple reference to the second (with a link to Les surprises de l’amour’s section) being left.

Should anybody be willing to help me in handling the Template:Rameau operas (or also somehow else), I shall be very grateful to them. --Jeanambr (talk) 17:56, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree there should be two separate pages if more material is going to be added (I originally put them together because we were just trying to create basic coverage of all Rameau's operas as part of a Composer of the Month project drive). However, I don't agree with the 1757 Anacréon being fused with Les surprises de l'Amour. The 1757 Anacréon is by far the more famous of the two pieces with the same title and has been recorded twice in the past 20 years, while the earlier opera has yet to receive a recording. Most people looking for Rameau's Anacréon will be after this work. It was originally produced as a separate work and only later added to Les surprises (the same thing happened to Les sibarites). I suggest the split articles might go under Anacréon (1754) and Anacréon (1757) (be aware that there is also an article on Cherubini's opera of the same name). Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 18:18, 6 February 2010 (UTC)