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|This page was nominated for deletion on 31 August 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus.|
|This page was nominated for deletion on 15 September 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.|
|This page was nominated for deletion on 4 May 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.|
- 1 CSD nomination
- 2 Picture
- 3 Rejig
- 4 Still reads like an ad?
- 5 Effects?
- 6 Fixing the article
- 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Theenemagrabible.jpg
- 8 Size matters.
- 9 The Aneros can be used by men of all sexual orientations.
- 10 Proof?
- 11 So what, what it is called in Japan?
- 12 Prostate Health Is Offensive Only To Anal Retentive People
- 13 The Name
- 14 Same device sold by HIH as medical device under different name
- 15 Notability and other issues
- 16 weasel words
- 17 External links modified
- 18 This is an an advertisement disguised as a wiki page
This has been nominated for speedy deletion as Spam. That is not a criteria for speedy deletion and there are no other ones that cover this. It has been listed for Prod instead. Capitalistroadster 05:50, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
The Helix Grey picture was copyrighted and no permission was granted by the copyright holder so it has been deleted and the link removed from the article. Capitalistroadster 05:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to see this article stay, but look more like an encyclopedia than marketing copy. I don't know where we'd start though. Queerwiki 05:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it could be linked to Butt Plug? I know, it's different, but. There's only a couple of minor links to here. But it appears no one is really anxious to delete it either (I found it with a google search). Reads okay to me, though it does seem a little like marketing-speak. The creator/main editor, Grassroots17, seems to have this as their only real subject.--Justfred 23:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Still reads like an ad?
I didn't see much at all reading like an ad. It all seems factual and describing its design, and being satisfied at that? Maybe it's time to remove that template? -- — Northgrove 16:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
This is a pretty thin article - there's absolutely no description of what the product actually does to a man, what feelings it can give etc.
- I have one and while I can't really say HOW it works. I CAN say that it DOES WORK!! And I don't think I can discribe the feeling except something like a fantastic epileptic seizure Herogamer (talk) 15:47, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Fixing the article
The article should stay but be generalized. There are other brands of this thing, one made in England though I don't remember the name. The street name for this is a "male g-spot stimulator". Aneros says it's technically a "prostate-perineum stimulator". Sex shops categorize it under butt plug but it has some unique features. I think of it as a "butt plug with a tail". The butt plug article says, "Some butt plugs are specifically designed for men and stimulate the prostate." This could be expanded to a section with a picture of the device and a description of its unique features, which would replace this article. Redirects would be important because not everybody would think to search under "butt plug" for this -- some people think of it as a kind of dildo or something unknown.
As for what it does and the feelings it produces, the Aneros website gives a very detailed description; I don't know of any other reference. You contract your sphincter muscles and it moves the plug; the motion gets transmitted to the tail because it's a single piece of plastic; and the tail presses against the perineum, which eventually triggers an orgasmic feeling. The "hours of waves of the best orgasm you've ever had" on the Aneros site is marketing hyperbole: some men may experience this, others say it gives them a mildly better orgasm and harder, longer erections but nothing earthshaking. After a time the feeling may no longer seem "better" but just "different". There may be others who get no substantial benefit from it. The device also has a "training" characteristic: if you pay attention to how the body reacts with the device, you may be able to approximate the same reactions without it. Sluggoster 05:23, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Theenemagrabible.jpg
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BetacommandBot 23:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
The Aneros can be used by men of all sexual orientations.
As far as I know, there is no scientific proof of a prostate orgasm. Sure, it can drain prostate fluid, but a prostate orgasm seems to be as dubious as a g-spot and female ejaculation. --Philip Laurence (talk) 16:03, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Do you honestly want me to provide you with a huge list of forum talk about the topic of handsfree orgasms in male humans or gay porn that shows it? Look for it yourself. It does exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 20:32, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
So what, what it is called in Japan?
Is this pertinent to the article? I mean, what it is called in Russia? and in Afghanistan? Peru? Or is it widely used in Japan, hence the information on what it is called? --Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 13:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC) It is extremely popular in Japan, more so than most other areas - and as it should be, as the Enemagra really was the product that gave birth to the entire line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 06:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Prostate Health Is Offensive Only To Anal Retentive People
I saw the word "Aneros" and wondered what it was. The Wikipedia entry succinctly explained it. That's why the Wikipedia was invented.
The article states (correctly) that "The name means "of a man" in Ancient Greek: ανερος, the genitive of "man", ανηρ." But was this the intention of the developers or did they choose the name as a portmanteau of "anal" and "eros"? I've added a  to that sentence because IMO the reason for the name should be sourced. -- megA (talk) 13:37, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Same device sold by HIH as medical device under different name
Notability and other issues
We've moved along, but the issues remain.
This object is a cheap plastic butt plug for male masturbation. 'Nuff said. (I have one, and enjoy it, I'm not deprecating it. It's a matter of plain speaking.) I say "cheap" because it's a nickel's worth of plastic, regardless of how much it costs.
Why is this device different from hundreds of others? Do we need a lead article on each one? Can I just go down the Amazon list of sex toys and make a page for each one? Some editor will start deleting them on sight (and don't forget this article, too).
We should delete the "patented" reference - everything is patented today, even cheap pieces of plastic. It's self-aggrandizement - it implies that this device is better than some other that neglects to mention in the text that it, too, is patented.
We twice mention the name of the company in the text - free advertising. The company name should be deleted, or moved into a footnote.
There is NO established medical use for this device - the claims are quackery and shouldn't be mentioned (the only references are from the company itself, directly and indirectly). Wikipedia text is an imprimateur, and others may in turn cite US as the source of medical claims or uses for this device.
The "Use" section is verbose and oblique - it reads like the instruction manual for the device (if it has one). "Use" should mean what it's used FOR, i.e. masturbation, not HOW it's used - let people go to the marketing website for those details.
Finally, I'd flag this article, not for deletion, but condensation into a paragraph, and inclusion under the "Butt Plug" article as an example (Wikipedia search will still find the Aneros name, so that should be good enough.
"users report", "is said", "is recognised": these claims aren't allowed in the encyclopedia without direct citations to support them. The citations must be to sources other than the company itself (WP:V#SELF). I'm challenging them, and if citations aren't forthcoming, I'm going to remove the sentences with the dubious claims.Sbalfour (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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