Talk:Angels & Airwaves

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et ducit mundum per luce[edit]

I just corrected the statement in the regular article that says the logo on the new album Love contains the Latin words "et ducit mundum per luce". When i googled the album image what I actually found is that it says "et plumbum mundus per lumen". Plumbum is the metal lead (rhymes with said), not the verb to lead. It looks like the artist for the album has gotten pretty confused and probably typed these words into an online translating machine, hence the nonsense of the logo (which can't be translated but would mean something like "and lead world through light". What the band wants to say is "et ducit mundum per lumen" or "per lucem", which means "And he leads the world by light".

I hope I don't get yelled at for conducting 'original research,' but this isn't really research. It's correcting a mistake, as anyone who has studied a little Latin can confirm. I've taken Latin for like 9 years so I know what I'm talking about. Strewberries (talk) 12:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)Strewberries

Actually. I'm guessing the band is reading Wikipedia, or their emails, or something else , because I am seeing Lucem now on their "official releases".

Band Picture[edit]

I believe that the main picture in the article should be reverted to what it was before (the screen shot of a live show). Ryan Sinn is no longer in the band, so why have a picture of the band with him in it? Fantasy Dragon (talk) 04:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Where did you get your source???[edit]

The current picture on this wiki has been incirculation for over a year so how can it have been taken during a 2008 photoshoot? Jimbosupernova ( talk) 09:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I was talking about a different picture. But what I said above still relates to the picture that is on the article now. Why use an old picture of the band that has a former member in it? That's like putting up a picture of Scott Raynor with blink-182... Fantasy Dragon (talk) 22:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

References to[edit]

An AVA poster appears in this week's episode of Greek. --Jackdavinci (talk) 07:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

What I removed[edit]

"April 24, 2008 at 9:00pm Tom Delonge was on "Modcam" it was slow because 760 people were on modcam and this is how it was the whole time is said "Loading Messages.." so things were bad.But Tom was on and he talked about various things about modlife.

The AvA Documentary was confirmed by Tom that it will be in stores in 60 days. At Warped Tour they're going to have a modlife tent it will have what bands are going to be on modlife, and also the ava documentary will be on sale. AvA flags must be made from members at warped.

They are in the works of making a punk/rock album "just for fun" Front man Tom Delonge says. To make modlife expand they will move to a bigger server to make everyone on modcam a more delightful experince.

"It's been real and fun" 9:39pm pt."

I believe that this is a large amount of details to be added without any citation, so I removed it, though it might be true. I later saw this posted on PunkDisasters, which is usually a reliable site, though anyone can submit news on it, but I think it's pretty trustworthy. So unless there is no other citation for it, should this information be put back up and linked to PunkDisasters for citation? Also, if it is put back up, it needs to be rewritten. The problem is when they release news through can't use the site for citation. Fantasy Dragon (talk) 12:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Feature Film[edit]

Is this a movie? or a dvd? Shake 3000 (talk) 19:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Start the Machine? Or I-Empire? I don't know which one you're talking about. Start the Machine is a documentary and was released on DVD. It wasn't shown in theaters, except for a one-night premiere thing, and I-Empire so supposed to be a full-length sci-fi movie that I believe is going to be released in theaters, but I'm unsure on that. Fantasy Dragon (talk) 20:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Biggest Fan[edit]

Uh ... what ? I doubt this should be here. Free feel to revert if you think otherwise. If this is a valid section, create a new entry for it - it isn't important enough to warrant being the first section on the page either. Philpill (talk) 12:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Space rock[edit]

I think Space rock should be added to the genre of the band. It has been said by the press many times so many website do cite the band as a space rock band as well. Plus, the band's sound is very similar to some 80s and 90s space rock bands, and there are even some similarities to Pink Floyd who are pretty much the fathers of space rock. SlayerXT (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Just sounds like Pop Rock to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:46, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

ffs... can someone put picture of them! i tried few times but unsuccessfully plz put someone image, they deserve it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deoo (talkcontribs) 20:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

i think that u should let space rock as a genre too —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deoo (talkcontribs) 21:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

It would be a slap in the face to space rock to put this band into the genre. Do not do it.

I don't even like the alternative rock label, pop rock seems much more fitting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

All three of the albums are listed as "alternative rock" and "space rock" on Wikipedia. So that should be the genres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocker10000 (talkcontribs) 13:05, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

What's with all these fancy genres? "Art rock", "neo-progressive rock"? Seriously?! They're space pop punk at best. (talk) 18:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Changed Angels and airwaves active date from present to 2009[edit]

due to the reformation of blink 182 —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

No! That's wrong, AVA is still in the works even though blink is back. Whereas Tom is on tour David atom and matt are still working on the album. 10:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)


I created the album page and edited the main page. Anyone want to help out? In perticular the album cover which is in the video? Tyb222 (talk) 07:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

> just got released (and it's a day early!) possible update to the LOVE section? And any idea if this is a technical glitch or whether they wanted to release it on Australian time or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:26, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I just removed the word "unremarkable" when the article talks about Mark's remix. It didn't seem very neutral. Feel free to put it back, if you wish (talk) 08:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC) Aaron

Usage of AVA in place of band name[edit]

I had run across the acronym "AVA" on Facebook and was curious as to its meaning. A quick google search, accompanied by a couple of other keywords managed to redirect me to the Angels and Airwaves wikipedia page. Using Ctrl-F, I did manage to find the abbreviation AVA once in the page, used in a location that it appears to be interchangeable with the name of the band. I'm only assuming that it is representative of the group from the way it was used. I am unfamiliar with the group and do not know for certain. Also, nowhere on the page does it specify.

Suggestion for improvement: Clarify this. Prior to using AVA, it should be defined. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Love: Part Two Pages Created and Corrected[edit]

Created album page for Love: Part Two. Figured with the album getting very close to release, with a single being dropped already, it is time. DCJodon (talk) 06:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the initial corrections. DCJodon (talk) 05:53, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Errors on guitars[edit]

Ok, lets get this straight. Who is lead guitarist for the band, and who is rhythm? On some pages (on Wikipedia) it says Tom is rhythm, and David is lead. While is other pages (such as I-Empire it suggests that Tom is lead, and Davis is rhythm. Although, in some cases Tom can be seen playing lead, such as here. Please someone fix this. -- (talk) 20:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Neither one of them is exclusively rhythm or lead. Delonge plays the majority of the lead riffs on WDNTW, however from I-Empire onward Delonge has been known to let Kennedy handle all guitar duties on a majority of songs during live performances while Delonge focuses on singing. This is due to a larger inclusion of sequenced backing tracks and on-stage synthesizer duties being handled by Wachter. However, it is still unclear who plays which parts on more recent albums such as Love parts 1 & 2. If a designation is absolutely necessary then I would say Kennedy is the "lead" guitarist simply because he is always playing guitar, whereas Delonge often chooses to only sing. However, in reality their dynamic is more like that of The Strokes or Fall Out Boy, with two guitarists trading off between rhythm and lead depending on the song. (talk) 21:30, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


There are some genres in the infobox that IMO aren't proper of the band. May you find some sources? Otherwise, I'm going to remove them --Horcrux92 (talk) 13:10, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Supergroup a peacock term?[edit]

"Supergroup" isn't a peacock term. It just means the members are already famous for work with other groups. Doesn't mean that the group is super. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:13, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

2014 current members[edit]

It's been confirmed that DeLonge and Rubin are the only two members of the band of present, yet I'm seeing changes to my edits saying that it's somehow a "rumour"? I don't know what more I need to do in order to confirm this. Any assistance would be appreciated. David James Young || (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:27, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Eddie Breckenridge[edit]

Although it does appear that he is not an official member of the band, it is possible that he never actually was. He came into AVA too late to have recorded anything for Dream Walker, so at best he would've been a touring member or official member yet to appear on an album until the NEXT album cycle. Seeing as he never performed a show with the band prior to the realization in the press that the only members remaining were Delonge and Rubin, it does not makes sense to classify Breckenridge as a "former member", for he may actually still be playing with the band, just not appearing in press photos or band bios on social media. Until his status is made clear, he ought not to be listed in official members sections (I know it seemed like he was a few months ago, but the situation has changed). For the diehard fans who want to catalogue every detail of the band, I merely ask you be patient until we know whether he is a touring member still or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:46, 16 October 2014 (UTC)


I think we need to re-write the entire member section and other parts of this article to reflect what tis group really is. The group is a multi-media super group that covers other mediums besides music. I think we can possibly create a page just for members that goes into their exact roles for the band. For example DeLonges roles as a member could be classified as a vocalist, guitarist, synth player, producer, actor and manager. Or rubin could be called a drummer, producer, bassist. So I think a major re-write of this article would be extremely beneficial. I.Wont.Give.In (talk) 17:33, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm interested. I'd be quite happy to look at some bits and pieces of the article, and we can discuss here as I go. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 22:37, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
If you're not going to cooperate properly, then I won't continue to help you. I've tried to reason with you, but if you're not willing to discuss properly or to compromise, then find someone else who will be willing to help you. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 04:25, 13 June 2015 (UTC)