Talk:Anglo American plc

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Name[edit]

Shouldn't it be Anglo American plc ?

Yes, but there is a large amount of resistance to giving company articles their formal names. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Companies and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies) for policy and guidelines. I would prefer the name under which the company is registered to be used, but the preference seems to be to use the trading name, as with Abbey (bank). Noisy | Talk 11:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Tarmac[edit]

Does the Tarmac company deserve it's own page, or should links come here - or to Tarmac ?

-- Beardo 01:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Links should be to Tarmac plc, which obviously doesn't exist yet. Noisy | Talk 11:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
An article on Tarmac plc does now exist Dormskirk 14:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Additions from Anglo American[edit]

Hi, my name is Robyn and I work in the Communications team at Anglo American. I’m new to Wikipedia, but understand and respect the rules of maintaining NPOV and making sure that items posted are verifiable and not original research. Additionally, I recognize that since I work for Anglo American I have a clear conflict of interest and will utilize the talk pages to discuss comments regarding the page.
My aim for participating is not to transform the article into a glowing review, but to transparently assist with any information requests or address factual clarifications that might help continue to evolve the article so that it provides a thorough overview of the company that reflects general consensus.
With that in mind, I have followed the gradual evolution of this page and noticed a few points that I wanted to suggest that might help as the page continues to develop out of its Stub-Class quality rating:

RDAngloAmerican (talk) 12:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Adding information to the Anglo American plc page[edit]

My name is Robyn and I work on the Communications team at Anglo American. Two months ago I posted a comment regarding some points that might help as the page continues to develop out of its Stub-Class quality rating. Since we haven’t heard anything back from the community I’m planning on making the previously suggested updates in the next few days. I recognize that because I work for Anglo American I have a clear conflict of interest, but since the suggested updates reflect similar items posted in articles of other FTSE 100 companies, we believe these are appropriate additions to the article. I understand that this might be changed by various editors and that is why I have attempted to include language that maintains NPOV and is verifiable online. My aim for these updates is not to make this article a glowing review of the company, but to make sure it includes some basic background information that reflects general consensus. RDAngloAmerican (talk) 08:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Additions from Anglo American[edit]

Hi, my name is Robyn and I work in the Communications group at Anglo American. I recently noticed some small errors in the article that require edits and included those below for consideration. Additionally, I wanted to suggest some verifiable updates to the article for consideration to help present NPOV coverage of all aspects of the criticism section. I understand my clear conflict of interest by working with Anglo American, but thought these items were beneficial to the article and consistent with other mining companies of Anglo American’s size.

  • The introductory/summary section mislabels Anglo American as “a world-wide group of companies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation)” when it is really a “multi-national mining company.” Small edit suggestions here, but I thought it would be appropriate to present to the community.

RDAngloAmerican (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Additions from Anglo American[edit]

Hi, Robyn again from the Communications group at Anglo American. I understand and respect the rules of maintaining NPOV and making sure that items posted are verifiable and not original research. Additionally, I recognize that since I work for Anglo American I have a clear conflict of interest and will utilize the talk pages to discuss comments regarding the page. I recently noticed some small errors in the article that require edits and included those below for consideration.

RDAngloAmerican (talk) 08:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Adding information to the Anglo American plc page[edit]

My name is Robyn and I work on the Communications team at Anglo American. Recently I posted some comments regarding some points that might help as the page continues to develop out of its Stub-Class quality rating. Since we haven’t heard anything back from the community I’m planning on making the previously suggested updates in the next few days. I recognize that because I work for Anglo American I have a clear conflict of interest, but since the suggested updates reflect similar items posted in articles of other FTSE 100 companies, we believe these are appropriate additions to the article. I understand that this might be changed by various editors and that is why I have attempted to include language that maintains NPOV and is verifiable online. My aim for these updates is not to make this article a glowing review of the company, but to make sure it includes some basic background information that reflects general consensus. RDAngloAmerican (talk) 12:57, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Answer some of the criticisms at the end of the article. 95.146.139.19 (talk) 23:22, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Sub-section: Milestones[edit]

There appears to be a factual error somewhere relating to the founding of Anglo American or at least when it comes to who founded it. Looking at the establishment date of Anglo American in 1917 and the death of JP Morgan in 1913, there is a discrepancy. This could be clarified to say that JP Morgan's company was the entity which helped create of Anglo American with the guidance of JP Morgan before his death, if that is the case, or the dates listed are wrong. Osnofla (talk) 13:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

General updates to the article[edit]

Hi - I work for Anglo American plc and would like to suggest some changes to the article. Can the community please let me know if there are any disagreements with the following?

  • Section 1.4 (2010 to present) needs to be updated to include that as of October 2014, Anglo American's Minas-Rio iron ore project, in Brazil, is now operational and shipping ore. [1]
  • Section 1.4 should also state that sale of Anglo American’s 50% share in Lafarge Tarmac Holdings concluded in July 2015. [2]
  • In the first paragraph of section 2 (operations), the five core business units text needs to be changed to reflect Anglo American’s six businesses: Kumba Iron Ore; Iron Ore Brazil; Coal (thermal and metallurgical); Base metals and minerals (Copper, Nickel, Niobium, Phosphates); Platinum; Diamonds, through De Beers. [3]
  • Anglo American no longer structures its business as stated in the second paragraph of section 2. Therefore the following references to wholly owned subsidiaries should be removed: “Anglo Base Metals, Anglo Ferrous Metals and Industries, Anglo Thermal and Anglo Industrial Minerals (Tarmac)”.
  • In the same paragraph, it states that Anglo American owns 45% of De Beers and is due to acquire an additional 45% from the Oppenheimer family. Anglo American owns 85%, having acquired the Oppenheimer’s interest in August 2012. [4]
  • The last paragraph of section 2 talks about Anglo American’s biggest project – Minas-Rio, Brazil. Since October 2014, Minas-Rio has been operational and is no longer classified as project.
  • In paragraph three of section 4, it should state that Anglo American withdrew from the Pebble Limited Partnership in December 2013. [5]


Richard 1986 (talk) 12:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

The proposed edits rely almost exclusively on the article-subject's website for citations, whereas Wikipedia requires that secondary, credible, independent sources be the primary basis of the article. Proper sources are not only independent of the organization, but also of the events being reported on. They typically include press, books and scholarly works. CorporateM (Talk) 04:23, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Updated citations[edit]


Hi - CorporateM. Thanks for the message. See below for updated citations. I've updated where I can. Thanks for your help.

  • Section 1.4 (2010 to present) needs to be updated to include that as of October 2014, Anglo American's Minas-Rio iron ore project, in Brazil, is now operational and shipping ore. [6]
  • Section 1.4 should also state that sale of Anglo American’s 50% share in Lafarge Tarmac Holdings concluded in July 2015. [7]
  • In the first paragraph of section 2 (operations), the five core business units text needs to be changed to reflect Anglo American’s six businesses: Kumba Iron Ore; Iron Ore Brazil; Coal (thermal and metallurgical); Base metals and minerals (Copper, Nickel, Niobium, Phosphates); Platinum; Diamonds, through De Beers. [8]
  • Anglo American no longer structures its business as stated in the second paragraph of section 2. Therefore the following references to wholly owned subsidiaries should be removed: “Anglo Base Metals, Anglo Ferrous Metals and Industries, Anglo Thermal and Anglo Industrial Minerals (Tarmac)”. [9]
  • In the same paragraph, it states that Anglo American owns 45% of De Beers and is due to acquire an additional 45% from the Oppenheimer family. Anglo American owns 85%, having acquired the Oppenheimer’s interest in August 2012. [10]
  • The last paragraph of section 2 talks about Anglo American’s biggest project – Minas-Rio, Brazil. Since October 2014, Minas-Rio has been operational and is no longer classified as project.
  • In paragraph three of section 4, it should state that Anglo American withdrew from the Pebble Limited Partnership in December 2013. [11]

Richard 1986 (talk) 12:59, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Much better! These all look good at-a-glance except the one by a Forbes "Contributor". We can only use articles written by the actual staff of the publication. I've given you a "go-ahead" template to approve the edits, since there are many small edits that would be time-consuming for me to make individually. CorporateM (Talk) 18:20, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

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