Talk:Appalachia

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Origin of term "Appalachia"[edit]

As the source of the term from a Muscogean language is widely accepted, and "another hypothesis" in the Etymology section that it is derived from the European "appellation" is unsourced, I have removed that sentence with that highly doubtful claim. If someone can source it, by all means put it back in. Dwalls 21:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Barbara Kingsolver[edit]

I was wondering why Barbara Kingsolver gets a mention under the "Popular Culture" heading but not under "Literature". She has a substantial literary reputations and, I believe, she grew up in eastern Kentucky. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.145.40.44 (talk) 00:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Appalachia Independence Movement[edit]

I recall hearing about it from a friend from Ellijay, Georgia a rural small town turning into an exurb of Atlanta, who knew about some of the proud yet struggling Appalachian peoples are fiddling with the idea of regional secession to make Appalachia an independent nation. There have been county and state secession plans in the region, due to the great socioeconomic and cultural differences between Appalachian people and newcomers moved into certain towns or cities. I didn't find anything on the google and yahoo search engines about the movement, must be a tongue-in-cheek humor on how Appalachia is a self-autonomous culture of its own. + 71.102.7.77 (talk) 03:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I've never heard of it. Bms4880 (talk) 18:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Even "tongue-in-cheek humor" would require a reliable source (demonstrating that it's well-known) to see how it might fit into this topic Tedickey (talk) 19:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Article move[edit]

What was the point of moving this article to "Appalachia (region)"? Why was there no discussion on this? Bms4880 (talk) 13:23, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know. I can't think of anything else named Appalachia. --Guerillero | My Talk 20:26, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move per request. (Full disclosure: I'm closing this early, and I participated in the discussion. However, there was strong and unanimous support for this, and by rights I think it could have been handled as an uncontroversial move. Orlady (talk) 02:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Appalachia (region)Appalachia — People searching for "Appalachia" are almost invariably searching for the region. There was no discussion on the previous move. The current "Appalachia" merely redirects to this page. Bms4880 (talk) 20:42, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Support I support the move because to my knowledge there is nothing else named Appalachia. I think the policy on this is WP:PRECISION--Guerillero | My Talk 20:54, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
SupportWhat else is it if not a region? Titles are not for article text, only topic identification. For example, the title White House (President's residence in Washington, D.C.) is just starting the article in the title. No need there, or here. Ocaasi (talk) 02:11, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Of course! - The move from Appalachia to Appalachia (region) was a mistake that needs to be reversed. The region is clearly the primary topic for "Appalachia". --Orlady (talk) 02:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Yep I didn't understand the move; no reason was given as far as I can tell. Pfly (talk) 02:49, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Support No previous discussion; no ascertainable point to previous move. Dwalls (talk) 13:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Definitely Support Appalachia (region) is redundant as there is no other "Appalachia" to confuse it with, and no ambiguity. Eastcote (talk) 20:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Strongest possible support per all of the above. Willking1979 (talk) 20:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
agree. "keep it simple" is good advice for an encyclopedia. Rjensen (talk) 22:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Support Isn't this ready for a WP:SNOW close? --JaGatalk 09:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Most likely however it has only 2 more days left so it looks easier to just let it expire --Guerillero | My Talk 22:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Plus, unless I am mistaken, it will require an admin to do the actual move. Pfly (talk) 01:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

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Requested move (again)[edit]

Once again, the article has been moved to Appalachia (Region), but now a new article has been created for Appalachia, describing it as a land area in the Mesazoic era. The consensus was to retain Appalachia for the present day area in the United States, and I, for one, do not appreciate the hostile takeover. Most people, 99 of 100, would be looking for the modern day Appalachia and have never heard of Mesazoic Appalachia. The primary "Appalachia" article should be the modern area, with disambiguation to the Mesazoic area. And as always, DISCUSSION before major changes like this should be the order of the day. Eastcote (talk) 19:50, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Bless you, Orlady. If I'd known how, I'd've done what you did. Eastcote (talk) 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Only Wikipedia administrators can do what I (and Shubinator) did. And now the pages are protected, so that only administrators can move them. --Orlady (talk) 00:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Modern Appalachia[edit]

There is no mention of Cumberland Gap National Historical Park here, and there should be. Mari 21:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MariAdkins (talkcontribs)

Added 1965 Congressional definition[edit]

Added it to the external links, saw the notation to add it to talk page as well, its the congressional definition so I'd be curious if any editor sees it as not encyclopedic. Thanks. Marketdiamond (talk) 11:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

New geology section[edit]

In looking at this new "regions" section -- now renamed to "Geologic Regions": The main article seems to suggest only five regions, with the Alleghenies part of the Ridge and Valley region. I am far from expert, but perhaps someone who is can comment/fix. -- B.S. Lawrence (talk) 17:04, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I changed the title of the "regions" section to "Physiographic provinces". That's because it was a list of physiographic provinces and because I've learned that the names and boundaries of geologic subdivisions don't always match the names and boundaries of physiographic provinces. For example, in western Virginia, there's Blue Ridge geology in the Piedmont physiographic province (or maybe it's Piedmont geology in the Blue Ridge physiographic province; I don't remember it very well). Regardless, for both physiography and geology, the definitions of the regions and the locations of the boundaries between them are based on semi-subjective judgments by humans (and those judgments may have changed over time), so there's no single "right answer".
An additional related issue (discussed at some length earlier on this page) is the question of whether the Piedmont is properly part of the Appalachians. IMO, it's best for the Appalachia article to acknowledge and describe some vagueness in the definitions of the various regions. Further refinements probably are needed in the article(s). --Orlady (talk) 22:30, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Major cities list in first paragraph[edit]

I happen to reside in Boone, NC.

I noticed that in the major cities list, Asheville is included, but Winston-Salem is not. I wouldn't argue that Winston-Salem is culturally in Appalachia or not - that would be difficult to determine. Winston-Salem does bear much influence of Appalachian music (for example, on WFDD). However, it is certainly in the Appalachian Regional Commission charter boundary (Forsyth County is listed here), and it is more than twice the size of Asheville. I would definitely argue that Roanoke, VA is culturally Appalachian, although it technically lies outside the ARC boundary. It is about the same size as Asheville. Charleston, WV is a state capitol... but it isn't listed.

What exactly makes a city "major" enough and Appalachian enough to be included on this list? --Mm35173 (talk) 22:32, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

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