Talk:Aranda people

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Spelling[edit]

Shouldn't it be spelled Arrernte? Dougg 07:00, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'Nations'??[edit]

I don't know what it means to talk about an Aboriginal 'nation'. I've never heard Arrernte people talk about themselves as a nation. Also, I don't believe the implied claim that Pitjantjatjara has a population of more than 25,000.

Arrernte land south of Alice Springs[edit]

(note: There are no Arrernte lands South of Alice Springs, as these lands belong to Pitjantjatjara, which is primarily in South Australia)

I deleted the above from the article as it's incorrect. Dougg 03:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Language[edit]

The languages of Aboriginal people in close proximity to each other traditionally have significant overlap.

Any languages, anywhere, that are in close proximity can come to have significant overlap. I might delete it.

Overlap also exists with Luritja, Warlpiri and Pitjantjatjara being 80% identical to Arrernte.

Is this referring to lexicon or grammar or both? Either way, I'm not sure that it's true, or relevant. The main point surely is that: Luritja and Pitjantjatjara are mutually intelligible and are therefore dialects of a single language. Luritja/Pitjantjatjara, Warlpiri and Arrernte however are not mutually intelligible and so are different languages. Dougg 10:17, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok I've deleted the above lines about '...traditionally have significant overlap' and the one about the three languages being '...80% identical'. Dougg 23:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Split proposal[edit]

Seems reasonable. Dougg 00:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

I'd like to improve (or replace) the pronunciation in the lead-in with a version in IPA, preferably for both Arrernte and (Australian) English. From what I've gathered in the article on the Arrernte language, I think the correct pronunciation is /arəɳɖə/. Does anyone know if that is correct? And do Aussies pronounce it somewhere close to /əˈɹʌndə/? That's how this American would say it, at least... — ˈzɪzɨvə (talk) 03:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I gather the indig. pron. is {[aˈrVɳɖV], where V is not-[a]. The English names are Aranda and Arunta, and the latter at least is presumably /əˈrʌndə/. kwami (talk) 23:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Rename page to "Arrernte people"[edit]

They seem to be known in most places as "Arrernte", even in their native language. The article on their lands is called "Arrernte lands", the article on their language is called "Arrernte language". I propose "Aranda people" be renamed to become uniform with the rest.

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