Talk:Architecture in early modern Scotland/GA2

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Reviewer: Eric Corbett (talk · contribs) 12:24, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I'll post my comments here section by section as I read through the article.

Thanks for taking this on. I will start going through the suggestions over the weekend.--SabreBD (talk) 15:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


  • "Vernacular architecture made use of local materials of stone, turf and, where available, wood." I don't quite follow that sentence. Are these just examples of the materials used, in which case "such as ..." would be better than "materials of ...", or is it an exhaustive list, in which case "locally available stone, turf ..." would explain.
 Done They are really examples.--SabreBD (talk) 08:48, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • ".. in a mixture of thatched half-timbered and stone houses". That's rather confusing, as a house can't be both half-timbered and stone. And are we talking about thatched half-timbered houses, or thatched houses and half-timbered houses?
 Done Both could be thatched, but not all were. The structure is more important so I removed the bit about thatch.--SabreBD (talk) 08:48, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • "...there was a fashion for grand private houses influenced by the Palladian style". Presumably it wasn't the fashion that was influenced by the Palladian style, as this implies, but the designs for the grand private houses?
 Done Yes its the design.--SabreBD (talk) 08:48, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Neo-classical churches

  • ""After the Toleration Act of 1712, episcopalians began building a limited number of new chapels". Shouldn't "episcopalians" be capitalised?
 Done I think its capitalised when its a denomination.--SabreBD (talk) 08:48, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Vernacular architecture

  • "Walls were often built of stone, and could have gaps filled with turf, or plastered with clay. Other regions employed wattled walls with turf to fill in the walls, sometimes on a stone base." I'm not at all sure what's mean't by "other regions" here. Other regions of the house, other regions of the world? There's no mention of any region that I can see up to this point.
 Done Of the country. Think this is clear now.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • "Most of the early modern population ... was housed in small hamlets and isolated dwellings", but the lead says " Most of the population were housed in isolated dwellings and small hamlets." So is "population" singular or plural?
 Done Can be either, but a single collective body is intended here.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)


  • "... the 'New Inn' in the St Andrews Cathedral Priory". Why is "New Inn" in quotes? Is it not really called New Inn?
 Done No need for emphasis on Wikipedia.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)


  • "There were continuities with pre-Reformation materials, with some churches using rubble ..." Using rubble for what?
 Done Walls. I added "dressed" to the stone alternative just to make this a bit clearer.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Scots Baronial

  • "These abandoned the defensible curtain walls of castles, being fortified refuges that were designed to outlast a raid, rather than a sustained siege." Not sure what "these" is referring to, as we've just been talking about tower houses and peel towers.
 Done The new houses.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Palaces and estate houses

  • "... strongly influenced by the interpretation of the Baroque carried out in England by Sir Christopher Wren". Interpretations aren't "carried out", so I'm not quite sure what's meant here. As interpreted by Wren?
 Done Yes as interpreted by Wren. Think this is clear now.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • "These houses were predominantly built using well-cut ashlar masonry .... What houses are we talking about? Those designed by Bruce?
 Done Its Bruce's houses.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)


  • "Lauder Church was built by Bruce in 1673 for the Duke of Lauderdale, who championed the bishops in the reign of Charles II and the Gothic windows of which may have emphasised antiquity, but its basic Greek cross plan remained within the existing common framework of new churches." That's a real run-on sentence that it's rather difficult to make sense of.
 Done Yep. Have split that one up.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • "The major exceptions to this pattern are in the work of Smith ..." What pattern?
 Done Greek cross plans.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Country houses

  • "William Adam, was the foremost architect of his time in Scotland, designing and building numerous country houses and public buildings." Quite a bit wrong with that sentence. For starters, why the comma after "William Adam"? The phrase "foremost architect of his time in Scotland" is also strange. Is what's meant something like "foremost Scottish architect of his time"? And the second half of the sentence sits awkwardly with the first. What about "William Adam, the foremost Scottish architect of his time, designed and built ...". That way there's no tense clash between "was" and "designing".
 Done I sent for the suggested solution.--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Early eighteenth century

  • "This culminated in the construction of Fort George near Inverness (1748–69), with its projecting bastions and redoubts." It's not at all clear what "This" is referring to here.
 Done--SabreBD (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I think we're done here now.

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.