Talk:Are "Friends" Electric?

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Re. last edits by Feline1:

  1. Tks for reminding me of the S.U. bit. A tangled Webb indeed, with AFE mentioning "S.U.s", Replicas (from memory) thanking "the two SUs" and "Su Wathan" transcribing lyrics on The Pleasure Principle's inner sleeve. Always heard SU referred to an old girlfriend but didn't think it could be Wathan else why was she still contributing to an album after the relationship finished ? I suppose because she was a Beggars staffer who did what she was told! Anyway, did some checking and found quotes from both Praying to the Aliens and the 1982 Numan biography by Coleman that confirm Wathan was the girl in question.
  2. Yes, I've again taken out "Gary Webb, better known as the artist Gary Numan" for two reasons: 1) it's clutter, 2) it's redundant on song articles when the first line in the Gary Numan link tells you "born Gary Anthony James Webb". If we had every song article with the Webb reference it'd get pretty wearing and if we do it for Numan we may as well do it for Bowie and have his song articles begin with "David Jones, better known as the artist David Bowie"... ;-)

Cheers, Ian Rose 10:32, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, yes - Sue Malden was actually the archivist that the BBC when they realised they'd be throwing all those old Dr Who episodes in landfill sites and they were gone forever LOL. --feline1 13:51, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely no comments on how much of a Bowie-clone he is.

He's a pretty boy and that's where the bowie link ends! (Cadmiumcandy, forgot my password today)

More SU's. I'm from Gary's part of the world and I don't think he says S.U's in the lyrics. listen to it closely. The word is 'issues'. It's just gary's accent and slightly strange way of speaking that confuses. (talk) 23:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC) Adrian.

Moog ?[edit]

Is the use of the Minimoog for the main "riff" sourced ? I remember seeing him play this on a Yamaha CS-80 on stage, not on the Moog (these beasts were rare enough to notice).

No Hook?[edit]

From 1:53 to 2:03, it repeats it's self twice. I'd say that was without doubt a hook. Metty (talk) 17:06, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

It's from the horse's mouth, so we have to leave it in. I think he was referring to the way that the song doesn't have a conventional chorus. It goes verse bridge verse bridge different verse different bridge verse bridge etc fade. I'm sure I read somewhere that the song was made out of two incomplete fragments squashed together; this is not mentioned in the article and might just be folk wisdom. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 14:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Re. hook, yep, I think that's what he meant, and I believe somewhere there's a further quote from him about the piece being "too long" and having "no chorus", which I might dig out if I can. I think you're also quite right about the two unfinished tunes being smashed together to form the song, it should be mentioned in one or two reliable sources, possibly again straight from the horse's mouth, and would be worth putting in the article if we can source it. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 16:55, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
He discusses this in some detail in his autobiography "Praying to the Aliens".--feline1 (talk) 18:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

I think he means no recognizable hook from prior musical history. Not that the song doesn't have a hook, of course it does! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:06, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 17 September 2014[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 23:28, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Are 'Friends' Electric?Are "Friends" Electric? – per MOS:QUOTEMARKS, we should use straight double quotes in titles where quotation marks are used, regardless of dialect or region or anything. The article body is fine, since single quotes are used within double quotes anyway.

On the other hand, the title with double quotes doesn’t appear to be in use in my Googling, and while MOS:TM says to use as close to standard formatting as is reasonable, it also advises against using stylizations that are not in use. (talk) 00:22, 17 September 2014 (UTC)


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  • Support as per nom, the double quotes also provide a nice distinction from apostrophes. Gregkaye 13:56, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Speedy support - this could've been a technical move request Red Slash 02:43, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
    • I would have, if Google were full of double-quote uses. — (talk) 04:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Support per nom, and per previous discussions at "Heroes" about the song by the same name on that that album. When referred to in running text, use this format: The song "Are 'Friends' Electric?" by Gary Numan.... When not quoted that way, the quotation marks revert back to ".  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  09:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

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