Talk:Ariel (city)

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Weve dealt with this nonsense in the past, but Ariel isnt in Israel. So it isnt an Israeli city. Tel Aviv, Haifa, Nazareth, those are Israeli cities. This is an Israeli settlement. nableezy - 20:16, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

"Weve [sic] dealt with this nonsense in the past"—exactly. But the conclusion was the opposite of what you say. The logic is very simple: it's a city (this is not disputed), and it's Israeli (you say yourself it's an Israeli settlement). Therefore it's also an Israeli city. QED. —Ynhockey (Talk) 09:40, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Please see WP:SYNTH: "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. If one reliable source says A, and another reliable source says B, do not join A and B together to imply a conclusion C that is not mentioned by either of the sources. This would be a synthesis of published material to advance a new position, which is original research.[8] "A and B, therefore C" is acceptable only if a reliable source has published the same argument in relation to the topic of the article." Dlv999 (talk) 10:38, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
The Israeli government considers it a city, but others do not. If you introduce yourself as Joe, but I call you Bill, that doesn't change the fact that your name is Joe. Ariel is considered a City to Israelis and officially recognized by the government, just as much as opposing groups call it a Settlement. And I think for the sake of truth, people should know both points of view. You can't stifle the conversation, because you don't like it. Both points are valid and that's that.SimplesC (talk) 11:28, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Yn, absolutely not. There has never been a consensus that you can call this an Israeli city. And you are well aware of what OR means, please stop engaging in it. It might be a city of Israelis, but it is not an Israeli city. Please do not distort the record. There is a reason this article has not said it is an Israeli city for some years now, and it isnt because the conclusion is as you claim. QED indeed. nableezy - 14:26, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

For nearly six months it said "an Israeli settlement and a city in the West Bank", written by... nableezy. Before that, it simply said "an Israeli settlement city in the West Bank" (November 2011–August 2012). And before that, it said "an Israeli settlement and a city in the West Bank" (January 2010–November 2011). And before that I have no interest in going. Face-smile.svg — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 16:11, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
I have no problem a city. I do have a problem with [an] Israeli city. nableezy - 16:57, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
It is "Israeli" not (only) because of its location, but (also) because of its population, which is Israeli. Debresser (talk) 08:28, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
As always, our own analyses have to take a back seat to high quality sources. Sources, unless I'm mistaken, predominantly describe Ariel as an Israeli settlement. Users advancing the "Israeli city" theory should do so with reference to high-quality secondary sources, preferably international sources. --Dailycare (talk) 19:59, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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