Talk:Arrondissements of Paris

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Arrondissement Names[edit]

Municipal arrondissement in France claims that Paris's ones do in fact have names not just numbers (but they are no longer, or have never been) used. Is this true and if so can someone find out what they are? Morwen - Talk 19:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

They're given in the French article.

  • Ier - Louvre
  • IIe - Bourse
  • IIIe - Temple
  • IVe - Hôtel-de-Ville
  • Ve - Panthéon
  • VIe - Luxembourg
  • VIIe - Palais-Bourbon
  • VIIIe - Élysée
  • IXe - Opéra
  • Xe - Enclos-St-Laurent
  • XIe - Popincourt
  • XIIe - Reuilly
  • XIIIe - Gobelins
  • XIVe - Observatoire
  • XVe - Vaugirard
  • XVIe - Passy
  • XVIIe - Batignolles-Monceau
  • XVIIIe - Butte-Montmartre
  • XIXe - Buttes-Chaumont
  • XXe - Ménilmontant

john k 19:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey @John K: A late reply, but I've been pretty much inactive since a few years.
There was a time when arrondissement names were very important; much like the metro lines were before, were you to say the number (and not the name/destination), most people wouldn't understand you. The above names, attributed at the last annexation (of suburbs) and arrondissment reorganisation, was a continuation of a 'tradition'... but it didn't make much sense because the arrondissements we see today are at least three times larger than they were before... they tried to compensate by giving names to 'quartiers', but these, too, are largely unused (and have no administrative value).
Adding all that might make the article more interesting... have to find some English sources about it, though. TP   12:35, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
@John K: TP   13:06, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
French sources ought to be perfectly acceptable. john k (talk) 01:33, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

from postal code?[edit]

Is there some way to tell what arrondissement a location is in by its postal code, or some other aspect of its address if the arrondissement isn't explicitly listed (other than memorizing all the streets and which numbers are in which arrondissement, of course)?

Yes, the last two digits of the 5-digit postal code indicate the arrondissement. Vilĉjo 19:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

750xx, xx is arrondissement. Reseaunaut 21:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Merge Arrondissement into Arrondissements[edit]

There are two WP articles: Arrondissement of Paris and Arrondissements of Paris. These surely concern the same subject. In fact, both are essentially just lists of 20 links to 20 articles about the individual arrondissements. Can we not redirect Arrondissement to Arrondissements? Hult041956 00:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Consistent naming[edit]

I see that some articles for Parisian arrondissements have adopted roman numerals while others are in Arabic numbering/English? I would propose to moved these onto a consistent footing. As the related categories are in the roman form, I would suggest moving the articles to their Roman form namespaces. In all cases, there are already redirects, so they would need to be moved over redirects.

=>Thus 5th arrondissement of Paris would become Ve arrondissement, etc

However, this ignores the fact that the system is not unique to Paris, so perhaps it would be a better idea to move 5th arrondissement of Paris to Paris Ve arrondissement, to mirror the category?

For clarity, note that we are talking about moving articles for the 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 11th 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th arrondissements. Ohconfucius (talk) 06:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

There's a discussion on WT:MOS-FR about this issue - views welcomed. Mcewan (talk) 15:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

you rike like barhue — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move 18 September 2017[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. No need to move protect, as it hasn't ever been moved against consensus. But a clear consensus not to move.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:58, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Arrondissements of ParisDistricts of Paris – 'Districts' is the most acceptable English translation for 'Arrondissement'. There are few redirects to manage after, as the pages linking to the new namespace are speaking of districts (administrative subdivisions) anyway. TP   21:10, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:38, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
I have no preference one way or another, but I have seen quite a 'make it English' drive around French terms (and I had been an advocate of keeping the French term one more than a few occasions). Making 'Districts of Paris' be a redirect to Arrondissements of Paris is a simple affair (that I just did, actually; nothing but talk pages (and other off-main pages) linked to it). TP   22:56, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
PS: This move was the last of a minor 'shuffle' of Paris-related articles (into a more coherent/homologous naming scheme). TP   22:59, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose English guidebooks use the correct term. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:56, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose: the most common term in English is arrondissement. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 09:01, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose: I'm actually glad that 'arrondissement' is acceptable (as it's quite particular to itself). I proposed the move for 'Use English whenever possible's sake, and Districts of Paris is already set up as a redirect to Arrondissements of Paris. TP   11:56, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Arrondissement is the widely used term in English-language sources. AusLondonder (talk) 19:27, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose and move-protect. The arrondissements of Paris are sufficiently notable that this is the common English term, and it should be an exception to any standardization. It is similar to how the boroughs of New York City are handled. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:10, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

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