Talk:Arturo Alfonso Schomburg

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While merging Arthur Schomburg into Arturo Alfonso Schomburg I came across a couple of inconsistencies which I mention here:

  • Virgin Islands Dutch ruled or Danish ruled when Arturo studied there? Looks like Danish ruled to me.
  • Two sons or three with his first wife Elizabeth? Article said two (Arthur A. and Kingsley) but I found another which said three (Maximo Gomez, Arthur Alfonso Jr., and Kingsley Guarionex) [1]
  • First son with second wife named Reginald Stanfield or Reginald Stanton? [2]

--Stormie 04:24, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Dutch vs. Danish: Danish. The Dutch influence in the V.I. (at least St. Thomas) was in the late 1600s and early 1700s. Danish settlements started during that time, and the islands were an official Danish colony from 1754-1917.
--Gruepig 03:47, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Arturo Alfonso's father - mestizo?[edit]


I'd really like to know about Arturo Alfonso's father being mestizo - this is not in the family books for sure.

Carlos Frédrico Schomburg was born in 1832 in Hannover province, Germany - his complete name was, in his native tongue, Carl Andreas Freiderich(k) Schomburg. Working first as a painter, then as a merchant shipman, he moved early in his life from his native Hannover to Denmark (Copenhagen), then later north to the port town of Skagen where he married and fathered six children between 1862-1875. Carl did much trading in the then still-Danish Virgin islands during his lifetime.

I'm going to have a hard time providing a reference for my information - it comes from my own family records and no published place other, so I won't be putting any original research here. The only online evidence I can find to cite is the Danish census board website - - no direct link, but do a search for "Schomberg" in the province of Aalborg and you'll have the right record (a census from 1860). (Note: remark that although spelled differently, this is the same family, consistant in household and members through the census years (and this with my own family records) - census registrars in other years have spelled the name Schomborg, Schombørg and even Schaumburg and Schaumborg).

Looking forward to any additional information on this - thanks. THEPROMENADER 13:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • You are right! It seems as if somrbody just assumed that Arturo's father was a mestizo and added the term. I removed it. A lot of people are totally unaware of the German influence in the Caribbean, that's why I wrote the following article: German immigration to Puerto Rico. I hope that you see it and enjoy it. Tony the Marine 16:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

It is interesting that you say this since a conversation with Donald Nelthropp Sr. a descendant of Hiram von B___ a distiller who lived on St. Croix has informed me that his ancestry was German. According to Mr. Nelthropp we were both wrong.RichardBond (talk) 00:46, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

(raising had) Again, Alfonso's father was my great-great-grandfather. But, Richard, where did you get your info? Any source is appreciated. Cheers! THEPROMENADER   07:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I was chiding Tony about a different Puerto Rican family not Schomburg. The first professional baseball player in the major leagues was from a family which moved there from St. Croix. Tony says that the family was English. Donald Nelthropp a descendant of the family says it is German.RichardBond (talk) 07:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Are the baseball player and Alfonso related? There were very few Shomburg records on Saint-Croix, as apparently Carl didn't stay there very long. THEPROMENADER   08:29, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Arturo Alfonso Schomburg's mother's name[edit]

The current text Hispanicizes AAS's mother's second name and treats it as a personal name when other sources have it as Joseph and a surname. There is a Black family from St. Croix surnamed Joseph that was there at the right time.RichardBond (talk) 19:45, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

St. Thomas College[edit]

St. Thomas was a college in the British sense not the American sense. It was a private school offering what Americans call high school.RichardBond (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2014 (UTC)