Talk:Assassination of Abraham Lincoln

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Just to get this started here, I feel the original sentence was fine as its not saying they don't know the exact count because it is unknown but because of the bench seating in the balcony section means more or less could have possible sat there. So they still would have had an idea that the approximately 1,700 was correct. Ping Donner60, EEng and 2601:807:8100:D910:E15C:5934:3A41:68BC. NZFC(talk) 03:44, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

  • The old wording of approximately 1,700 was fine, though I've made that some 1,700 since I think flows more smoothly and better communicates the uncertainty. I think we're all on the same page except for our rogue IP. I wouldn't be surprised if there are scholarly sources discussing this in detail, but for now the NPS is quite good enough. The IP's concern seems to be that the modern capacity is only 700, but back in the day people were allowed to stuff themselves anywhere they could in the space, which of course can't happen now. EEng 03:49, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Ping NZ Footballs Conscience, EEng and 2601:807:8100:D910:E15C:5934:3A41:68BC. I agree with the previous two comments. The IP may have been trying to interpret the source but the edit appeared to negate the 1,700 significantly and possibly to negate the fact that Hail to the Chief was played and the audience rose in applause. There is no doubt that happened. The modern seating arrangement is quite different from the seating at the time. The NPS source simply says the exact count may never be known because of the uncertain count of the bench seating. But this could even be read to mean the count was slightly higher. The comprehensive report on the restoration of Ford's Theater can be found at Page 37: Seating capacity of the first floor was "about 602." Page 39: Dress circle seated "about 422". Seating capacity of the family circle was "about 600". Page 43: Describes the boxes but does not give an exact seat count, probably because it could vary. Photo on page 42 shows the very different types of chairs used at the time which were quite different than the movie theater type chairs used today. In fact, as an aside, the original type chairs were used for some time after the theater was restored but were not so closely placed to each other; still the capacity was somewhat higher in the late 1960s/early 1970s than it is today. Donner60 (talk) 04:36, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you both for your comments, it appears IP isn't going to say or do anything more but it's good that we have this discussion here for future reference. NZFC(talk) 05:20, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Laura Keene's account[edit]

17 April 1865 New York Herald

The article says that Laura Keene cradled Lincoln's head in her lap in the box. Does anybody know from what eyewitness accounts that comes from? I just want to clarify that I mean from the original witness accounts, not from the numerous books and articles about the assassination, ie who actually said that happened and was it contemporary or written years later? Did Dr. Leale mention it in his accounts? I ask because the account Laura Keene gave in an interview to the New York Herald a couple of days later doesn't mention this happening at all. Keene says she brought water to the box and then tried to console Mary Lincoln. As far as I know the Herald interview is the only account given by Keene herself, and being printed a few days later is also contemporary. Libertybison (talk) 23:06, 4 August 2018 (UTC)