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"Flight From Dallas"[edit]

FYI

This is a facet of the "two Oswalds" theory that could be developed as a part of John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories, but not here. - Location (talk) 20:03, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Harold Weisberg[edit]

My own FYI, seems worth at least a brief mention, New York Times thought it was worth an obituary of significant length:

  • Harold Weisberg, 88, Critic Of Inquiry in Kennedy Death [1]

Harelx (talk) 02:38, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

He already has a mention on the conspiracy page (though he wasn't a conspiracy theorist per se) and there is a stub page for him. That obituary, btw, was from 2002. Canada Jack (talk) 14:15, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


Photo of Ruby about to shoot Oswald[edit]

Several times text with the photo of Ruby about to shoot Oswald was added: Note that Ruby is the only person in the photograph who is aware of what is about to happen.

This has been reverted several times on the basis that Leavelle, one of the cops with Oswald, in fact had seen Ruby in the crowd. I suggest there is a more basic reason - the addition to the cutline is irrelevant. Even if true, why does this warrant mention? Why not add similar irrelevant notes to the photos of the limousine before the shooting along the lines: "Note that none of the occupants seem aware of the pending assassination attempt." Canada Jack (talk) 15:36, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


If Jim Leavelle had seen Ruby in the crowd with a gun, the transportation of Oswald from the city jail to the county jail should have been stopped immediately, and Ruby should have been arrested for criminal possession of a weapon. When you say that Leavelle had knowledge about Ruby, I say, "Objection, hearsay!" Ironically, Jim Leavelle is still living to this day at age 94; he's the only person who knows the whole truth of the matter.

If Leavelle did in fact see Ruby with a gun, he should have been suspended for not taking immediate action against Ruby.

We learn from our mistakes. A criminal defendant never wore a bullet proof vest in this country before Oswald was killed. Metal detectors were not in use in 1963. It's ironic that Oswald was killed in the one place were he should have been safe: police custody.

Note that Ruby is the only person in the photograph who is aware of what is about to happen. Is this statement irrelevant? I think not. No matter who you are of where you go, it always pays to be aware of your surroundings. Pedestrians cross the street without paying attention and are killed by cars. Motorists multitask behind the wheel and cause serious accidents. In the case involving Oswald, the Dallas police department should have been more aware of what was going on in Oswald's immediate vicinity. In a single instant, Lee Harvey Oswald became the most hated person in the United States and was targeted for death. The police made a tremendous procedural error with lax security in allowing Jack Ruby to enter the jail corridor with a concealed weapon. Human error can be mitigated but never eliminated.

Anthony22 (talk) 17:37, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

It is irrelevant, Anthony. It might be relevant if the photo was illustrating the part of the Warren Report which discussed the incompetence of the Dallas Police in allowing their suspect to be shot and killed. But that is not what the photo is doing. As it stands, the cutline is POV and interpretative. Canada Jack (talk) 18:32, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
While these are good reasons for leaving it out, my main one would be how do you verify this? In what way would we ever know? Mind reading? Britmax (talk) 12:07, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

NBC mistake[edit]

NBC desk reporters (on a few ocassions) erroneously stated that LBJ would be completing the (JFK's elected) term of office in January 1964. The term of office-in-question, actually ends in January 1965. GoodDay (talk) 08:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

punctuation before references[edit]

I removed a comma that is grammatically incorrect in the sentence in which it appears. This comma was restored on the grounds that a reference immediately follows it, necessitating the comma depsite the grammar of the sentence. If that is true, can someone point me to the part of the MOS that spells this rule out? MOS:COMMA says nothing about this. Thank you. 2605:6000:EE4A:2900:6250:C93B:E4D4:B4BC (talk) 02:41, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

@Baseball Watcher: ping. - Location (talk) 18:36, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
This appears to be a misreading of MOS:PUNCTFOOT:
"Any punctuation [...] must precede the ref tags."
which seems to have been taken as "if no punctuation exists before a reference, put any punctuation you like in". I agree that no comma should exist in this case. Remove it. Wellset (talk) 09:59, 10 July 2015 (UTC)