Talk:Birmingham Science Park Aston

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Requested move 13 April 2015[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. Harej (talk) 15:35, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Aston Science Park → Birmingham Science Park, Aston – This is in response to a request from new editor Owskiedoodle which I thought made sense as per WP:OFFICIAL as seemingly on both website and minimal park signage. Another Way to do things might be to call the article Innovation Birmingham Campus which is also marked on the map and is displayed on the main building signage. Greg Kaye 12:33, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment it seems that the science park was called "Aston Science Park" (probably because of its location and connections with Aston as opposed to Birmingham university), but sometime (last year?) it had a name change. At the moment the reliable sources seem to be mixed over usage, as a google search on "Aston Science Park" and "Birmingham Science Park" shows. So either name could be used. But what is not needed is the ",Aston" as there is only one "Birmingham Science Park" in Birmingham there us no need for disambiguation by suburb. -- PBS (talk) 16:01, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think it can work either way as the existing suggestion provides a very minor help in specifying the location within Birmingham. However I don't consider there to be an issue here so, instead of the page being potentially relisted, it may be best for a closing admin to make a decision either way. Greg Kaye 21:04, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm fascinated that the nom refers to Wikipedia:Official names (by a shortcut) and then proceeds to argue that the official name has changed without considering whether or not this change has had any impact at all on common usage. That's the exact opposite of what the essay cited says, and which is based on WP:AT of course. Is it worth relisting to consider the issues, or is it best just to close it on the MWOT principle? Andrewa (talk) 05:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Citations that do not "clearly support the material as presented in the article"[edit]

Owskiedoodle, thank you for your contribution to this page at 11:08, 14 April 2015‎. However there is a problem with some of the inline citations that you have provided. You new text includes the following sentence and supporting citations:

There are at least seven LAUNCH ^[1] events per year, with speakers drawn from the most high profile gaming companies in the UK, such as Codemasters,^[2] Microsoft,^[3] Playground Games,^[4] Rebellion^[5] and Vodafone Games.^[6]

^ "LAUNCH Presents: Marmalade hosted by bluegfx - Innovation Birmingham". innovationbham.com. Retrieved April 2015. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
^ "Codemasters - Codemasters Home". codemasters.com. Retrieved 15 April 2015.
^ "Microsoft – Official Home Page". microsoft.com. Microsoft. Retrieved April 2015. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
^ "Playground Games". playground-games.com. Retrieved 15 April 2015.
^ "Home - Rebellion". rebellion.co.uk. Retrieved 15 April 2015.
^ "Apps and Downloads – Vodafone". vodafone.co.uk. Retrieved April 2015. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

The problem is that some of the citations do not "clearly support the material as presented in the article" (see WP:PROVEIT):

For example what part of the content of that sentence does the Vodafone citation support?
Which of the inline citations you have given supports "There are at least seven LAUNCH events per year" the citation "LAUNCH Presents: Marmalade hosted by bluegfx" does not mention that there are "at least seven LAUNCH events per year".
"with speakers drawn from the most high profile gaming companies in the UK" says who (which of the citations support it)?
Who says that the companies mentioned are "high profile gaming companies in the UK" (which of the citations support it)?
Who says that these companies attend LAUNCH (which of the citations support it)?

-- PBS (talk) 17:01, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed those citations and copy-edited the section to remove hyperbole and promotional language. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "LAUNCH Presents: Marmalade hosted by bluegfx - Innovation Birmingham". innovationbham.com. Retrieved April 2015. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

[2] "Codemasters - Codemasters Home". codemasters.com. Retrieved 15 April 2015.

[3] "Microsoft – Official Home Page". microsoft.com. Microsoft. Retrieved April 2015. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

[4] "Playground Games". playground-games.com. Retrieved 15 April 2015.

[5] "Home - Rebellion". rebellion.co.uk. Retrieved 15 April 2015.

[6] "Apps and Downloads – Vodafone". vodafone.co.uk. Retrieved April 2015. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

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