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Truth is discredited by a singular influential individual calling it fiction[edit]

Why is it stated as "a fictional" island? Anonlithium (talk) 07:32, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Because it is. --Ebyabe talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 07:48, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Because this is consensus, see Archive 7. --bender235 (talk) 14:42, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
This is a better answer. WE have discussed this long and hard and this is the consensus.Slatersteven (talk) 16:01, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

minor correction[edit]

The part about Plato's fourth century contemporaries should be changed to fourth century BC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.190.0.75 (talk) 03:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Sardinia = Atlantis(?)[edit]

It has been argued that "Pillars of Hercules"= Gibraltar stems from roman times i.e. long after Plato. In his days "Pillars of Heracles" meant the borders of the greek cultural area i.e. a much smaller area in the northern and eastern mediterranean region.Around 1200 BC this area was rocked by heavy earthquakes and floddings. It has been claimed that the larger part of todays Sardinia where there seems to have existed a fairly advanced and specific culture sank in the sea at this. This may have inspired to the Atlantis - myth. The pharaoh that Moses did confront is usually identified with Ramses II who lived at this time. The plagues over Egypt and the drowning of pharaohs army might be reminicenses of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.198.216.242 (talk) 08:58, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

If you have an RS that says this I think we could include it.Slatersteven (talk) 09:33, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Size of Atlantis[edit]

Just wondering if anybody (ancient or more recent) ever commented on the apparently contradictory size estimates given by Plato?

What I mean is that "Asia" (Anatolia) alone would be much bigger than "3000 by 2000 stadia" and presumably Plato would have known that. In my opinion such a discrepancy in basic, verifiable facts (i.e. with being "larger than Ancient Libya and Asia Minor combined") would be a pretty strong indicator of the fictitious character of the story.106.71.180.22 (talk) 09:45, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Plato's account[edit]

Just a thought, but to remain consistent with the lead's presentation, this section ought to be retitled, as the word 'account', as used here, typically refers to historical rather than fictional works. I'd suggest "Plato's narrative" instead, as equally descriptive but less misleading. Other possiblities would be "Plato's text", "Atlantis as described by Plato", etc. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 05:20, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Seems fair.Slatersteven (talk) 08:52, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Fixed already. --bender235 (talk) 11:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Shima Submergence: A special issue on Atlantis and related mythologies[edit]

Some papers/aricles published by in the journal Shima last year that might want to be referenced on the main article:

Submergence: A special issue on Atlantis and related mythologies http://shimajournal.org/issues/v10n2/c.-Dawson-Hayward-Introduction-Shima-v10n2.pdf

The Atlantis Story: An authentic oral tradition? http://shimajournal.org/issues/v10n2/d.-Smith-Shima-v10n2.pdfIn an archive (talk) 11:40, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, looks good. Doug Weller talk 12:57, 16 June 2017 (UTC)