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Another fake reality show
Where is the credibility of this show?
- They live in Southern California where many people do minor acting bits for quick bucks and that's all they've done; bit parts. I'm not saying it isn't fake, just that "They're actors" isn't proof. --126.96.36.199 (talk) 21:44, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
You inaccuratley characterized my edit as vandalism. Any viewer at all familiar with the show would know Ton ALWAYS announces some secret hidden, valuable discovery with "Holy Crap" or mimicing, "Ho - Leee Crap!" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
also there is a new episode that was shown at 10 pm Pacific (I assume) last night (Wednesday Sept. 19, 2012) on Spike where they were in Hawaii the Spike Commercial for it even said that it was a brand new episode. and that episode is not on this list (you only have up to July on the episode list) please fix this. it is an actual episode me and 3 other people around me saw it last night as I stated and it showed the commercial and every time it did it said it was a brand new episode so the episode list needs to be updated. just thought you guys should know. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 16:32, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I've deleted the criticism section. It appeared to be made up entirely of original research with references to IMDB, older versions of IMDB entries, and the editor(s) drawing conclusions based on this research. If there is a valid criticism it needs to be spelled out by reliable and independent sources. SQGibbon (talk) 21:04, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- An IP has added a citation that points to The West Coast Truth. I'm not sure how reliable a source that is but I've left in for now (rewording it a bit). SQGibbon (talk) 22:06, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
SQGibbon: I removed your reference about one of the actors being an antiques dealer: as previously shown in a revision that you removed, it is extremely questionable that this actor is really an antiques dealer, or that he was one in the past. This was only added to his biography on IMDB when they started with this show: don't you agree this is a little strange, if he was already an antiques dealer for 20 years? (and suddenly it's the main topic of his bio) You can also use Google to find pages older than, say 2009, with any reference to this actor being an antiques dealer. You probably won't find any. Just because the show's producers put this on their page, doesn't mean that this guy is actually an antiques dealer. It's clearly not a reliable source, and self-serving. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Questionable_sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 17:30, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
- Please demonstrate why the official website for the program located on the corporate Spike site is not a reliable source, you stating that it's "clearly not a reliable source" is not sufficient. Wikipedia routinely accepts as reliable information taken from official corporate-based websites. Here is the link to his biography on the site. I think at this point it is up to you to demonstrate that information from the Spike website is inherently unreliable. SQGibbon (talk) 15:06, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- From the Verifiability clause: "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." First, and most importantly, your source is not a third party (nor does it fall into any of the other categories): it's the same entity that's paying the actor to be part of the show. Spike has a clear conflict of interest (WP:NOTRELIABLE) when it comes to information about their own show, or the people they pay to appear in their show (and so does the actor, who can edit his IMDB bio). If you were making a show about auctions, and you wanted it to be perceived as a reality show, wouldn't it be useful to have someone presenting this show who isn't just an actor, and has a background in the subject? It would be, which demonstrates this conflict of interest and the self-serving nature of their statements concerning the actors.
- Furthermore, as I have previously shown in various ways, it is demonstrably unlikely that this actor really is "a second generation antique dealer and collector with over 20 years of experience in the field". Why else would his bio only have changed to reflect this around the time this show started airing? Or visit his resume (http://www.studiotalentgroup.com/db/talents/pdf-resumes/AllenHaff.pdf), and ask yourself why it doesn't list a word about antiques. I agree this doesn't prove anything either way, but that doesn't matter: the bottom line is that it's not verifiable that this guy has ever been in the antiques business. Show me some old interviews, documents of auctions, or other records.. anything that verifiable.
- Lastly, while you made it appear that just some random guy doesn't believe the show to be authentic, try Googling the words "auction hunters", and see which word Google fills in as a suggestion. That's right, "fake", and it comes up with thousands of people who question the show's authenticity. Anyone with any intelligence who has watched this show a few times will realize there's nothing 'real' about this show except the acting. Same for many other so-called "reality" shows, like Operation Repo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 17:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- I understand your view (and probably even agree with the idea this is staged) however drawing such conclusions in order to promote that view point in the article is a violation of WP:NPOV/WP:NOR. I have a resume I do not list everything I have ever done or have an interest in on it, I use it for what is appropriate for the job I am applying for. The resume you show can't be used to draw any conclusions, its likely drawn up by the group rather than the individual and is clearly just a list of skills relevant to acting roles. It's also somewhat ironic that you reject spike's version as self serving wanting to portray just a certain view, whereas an agents you'll present as being strong evidence. Similarly there is (as far as I know) no magical effect of becoming an actor which prevents you having other interests, having previous or concurrent roles elsewhere. (Which is just as well since many aspiring actors end up doing just that.) The use of sources such as Spike needs to be handled carefully but it is not unusable as you seem to suggest, wording along the lines that Haff is presented for the show as a second generation... should be pretty non-contentious use of that source --22.214.171.124 (talk) 16:08, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Don't add section without reliable sources
Given the "war" which has happened on the article and the comments above:
While ever the criticism section has only a reference to westcoasttruth.com, please don't insert it. If there is such as widely help belief that it is staged, then please at least one reliable source. Callanecc (talk • contribs • email) 16:09, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
SERIOUS problems with this page--
The references in the talk section to the problems with previous entries pertaining to controversy are understood, but this show's Wikipedia page currently reads as a press release from Spike TV. All signs point to this show being staged at least partly, if not totally, and the listing of Haff and Jones's "hauls" only encourages those researching this show to go gambling into the abyss seeking gains like these. While I have no problem with the propaganda presentation of the show being contained in this article, I would like it to contain some sort of disclaimer containing the many sources who believe, with good reason, that this show is faked. That way, those who come across this page have the right to decide the issue by themselves and are not deluded by the one-sided presentation of this article that the show is 100% legit.
Please address this immediately.
126.96.36.199 (talk) 17:54, 5 March 2013 (UTC)MChorn01 Would the word of the famous Blue Dog artist be a credible source? The shows representatives purchased a Blue Dog painting and book and then apparently inserted it into a property. Worse than that - they attempted to resale the painting to the artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 01:15, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- Well, it says here that the show is non-scripted. I don't think it should be classified as scripted reality. http://gurneyproductions.com/spike-tv-renews-auction-hunters-for-season-5/ DeathTrain (talk) 01:56, 11 April 2018 (UTC)