Talk:Augustine of Hippo

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The editing "Augustine of Hippo"[edit]

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                                ~Lindsey Walton~  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:226A:ADB8:744C:1A59:9428:BC64 (talk) 20:28, 5 May 2015 (UTC) 

Likely wrong information[edit]

The article states that:

"Augustine's view of sexual feelings as sinful affected his view of women. For example he considered a man’s erection to be sinful, though involuntary,[145] because it did not take place under his conscious control."

However, after having read all of Book 14 of the City of God (which is the reference of citation 145), I found nothing on men's erections being sinful. Thus, I think this should be removed or a new source should be found. Feel free to read Book 14, Chapter 17 or even all of Book 14 to see for yourself.

66.227.159.219 (talk) 16:34, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. I agree, I don't find any such statement in the text. It may be that someone deduced that somehow from the paragraph, maybe some translations give a different impression, but there's definitely not an explicit statement that erections are sinful. I will remove the statement; if someone wants to argue that that's what Augustine meant, he/she will have to provide a secondary source for that. - Lindert (talk) 18:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Addendum: I also looked at the source cited in the following sentence, as the paragraph is presented as a connected whole, and found this: "In sexual attraction and intercourse, the male experiences the erection of his penis, which is not (as it would have been in paradise) under the control of his mind.", the author then cites City of God 14:16, so she is saying that according to Augustine, erections did occur in paradise, before Adam had ever sinned, but that after the fall these erections became involuntary and connected to fleshly (sinful) lust, not that they are inherently sinful. She also quotes Augustine as saying that there is no sin in sexual intercourse for the purpose of procreation in marriage (p. 67, footnote 56). I have therefore removed the entire paragraph, as it would not make much sense without the part about erections. - Lindert (talk) 19:06, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Augustine as 'Roman Catholic'[edit]

Given that the division of the church hasn't happened yet, it is simplistic to describe Augustine as an RC, especially as his mantle is strongly claimed by many Protestants. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I think it's worth some consideration! Ender's Shadow Snr (talk) 14:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Other Bishops of Hippo?[edit]

"Bishop of Hippo" redirects here, but there is little to nothing about the other bishops before or after. Hippo Regius mentions (under §Ecclesiastical history) that there were seven and lists some (without in-line citation). Does anyone have any further information (either enough to make a new article, or as a section in an appropriate article? — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 14:32, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

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