Talk:Austrians

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Mozart should be in the portrait section.[edit]

Probably the most famous Austrian (and composer) in history.46.194.242.185 (talk) 15:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Only if you consider Austrians as Germans (they are) because Mozart was not born in Austria, it was under the German Holy Roman Empire and his ancestry was all German, his parents were also born in what is now in Germany.--92.23.126.88 (talk) 03:19, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

It is not ok to depict Mozart here IMO. As already said, he was born and raised in Salzburg, which was not part of Austria until 1805/15. It was also part of the Bavarian imperial circle, not of the Austrian. Mozart as an Austrian is modern fiction.--78.51.15.103 (talk) 15:44, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Freud[edit]

Freud was a Jew. Not an Austrian. Remember, this article is concerned with ethnicity, not nationality. JDiala (talk) 02:42, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Truth be told there's no such thing as a separate Austrian ethnicity, they're basically ethnic Germans who weren't part of the German unification, like Liechtensteiners. And since there's already an article about German Austrians, I suppose this is more about the Austrian nationality article. Guy355 (talk) 19:06, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

To be fully honest we should argue that german saxons share common ancestry with anglosaxons. It's a mess to identify ethnicity with certainty, don't you think? --82.48.141.68 (talk) 19:28, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

This article is ridiculous because everybody knows that Austrians are ethnic Germans.--88.16.152.94 (talk) 00:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Afrikaners became a different ethnicity from the Dutch, and Americans are on the verge of becoming a different ethnicity from the English, but Austrians are part of the same German ethnicity as Bavarians, Saxonians, Thuringians, Haburgers etc.--88.16.152.94 (talk) 00:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Where is Hitler in this collage of famous Austrans?[edit]

Where is Hitler in the portrait of famous Austrians? Hitler is the most famous of all those added in the collage many of whom have died centuries ago who many around the world have no clue who they are. Most people around the world have known or heard of Hitler and to deliberately omit him out of this collage is just another example English Wikipedia bias. 2.30.8.77 (talk) 19:26, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


Agreed, 100%. He's just about the only Austrian than many people are aware of being Austrian. Perhaps, one of the top 5 most well known historical figures from any country.Spacecowboy420 (talk) 06:18, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Not agreed. I wonder if Hitler would agree being depicted as an Austrian. Or Mozart for that matter.... Gerard von Hebel (talk) 18:29, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
If the collage of famous Austians was still up, it would be funny to have Hitler inside. Not only because he's undoubtedly the most famous austrian in human history this far, but also because he preferred to view himself as a pan-german aryan living in the Third Reich. So portraying Adolf Hitler as an austrian could be intended as an insult to his figure and other aryan myths. A foreigner as head of nazi Germany: a beautiful insult to that horrible xenophobe and mass murderer. --82.48.141.68 (talk) 19:34, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
So, where's Freud in the collage? Gerard von Hebel (talk) 02:36, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Hebel, you're right !! I don't think Hitler would agree with being depicted as Austrian, didn't you hear? He's dead. He won't agree or disagree with anything. But if you think Freud belongs there, then remove someone less famous and put him there. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 07:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
If we are in the process of replacing/adding new people, I would also argue that Arnold Schwarzenegger belongs on the list. More so than Christoph Waltz. Nymf (talk) 07:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
As you know, the point is that Hitler wouldn't have agreed even when he was alive. He basically terminated the country and it's nationality altogether. For about nine years into his Thousand year Reich. Well, at least he made an effort. Let's replace Hitler by Freud and reinstate Rilke? I like Rilke. Shouldn't these galleries be representative of the nationality involved rather than tell people things they already know? Well.... I'm a fan of the idea of removing them altogether, as you might have gathered. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 17:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately, what someone considered themselves to be, is not really relevant. Hitler is mentioned later in the article, there are 1000s of sources to confirm his background. If I consider myself to be a high notable Austrian, can I be on the gallery? Of course not, because facts about your background are far more important than how you self identify. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 06:39, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

The gallery of personalities from the infobox[edit]

I invite everybody to post their opinions at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups#The_necessity_of_galleries_of_personalities_in_the_infoboxes Hahun (talk) 11:37, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

RfC can be found here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups#Proposal for the deletion of all the galleries of personalities from the articles about ethnic groups. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 02:08, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Austria and German Unification[edit]

Hello. The reason why Austria did not join the newly created Germany was not just because it had been expelled from the Bund. You should bear in mind that neither the ruling dynasty, nor the non-German majority of Austrians intended to do so. --Zik2 (talk) 19:41, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Austria wasn't expelled from the German Confederation. The German Confederation had been dissolved.--MacX85 (talk) 19:54, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Austrians : A real ethnic group distinct from Germans?[edit]

In that page Austrians are referred as an homogenous Germanic ethnic gruop, closely linked with Germans; in the page of Swiss people is described that the german speaking swiss people belongs to german people. I live near Austrian order and i can't see any difference between austrians and the bavarian population in germany. In italy the german speaking population of South Tirol, the same of people of austrian Tirol is recognized in italy as german minority. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TizStriz (talkcontribs) 21:41, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

The article currently states "Austrians may be described either as a nationality or as a homogeneous Germanic ethnic group". Generally speaking, Austrians are acknowledged as ethnic Germans but they have developed their own national identity since 1945.--Sein und Zeit (talk) 20:33, 21 June 2017 (UTC)