Talk:Autism friendly

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iPad Autism friendly application[edit]

As a placeholder, there's an article request for an article about an autism friendly application for iPad, which when made will be linked to from this article: autism friendly application for iPad.--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:23, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Some links[edit]

BBC Health: Autism-friendly film gets people relaxed about cinema [1]  Done 9/6

Dimensions: Autism Friendly Film Screening of Brave - at over 80 participating cinemas[2]  Done 9/6

Odeon, a well known cinema in UK: [3]  Done ext links section 9/6

Autism Awareness Campaign UK - Maybe put in the see also section.  Done 9/6 - put in community involvement for now, will add more info about this and other organizatoins

Hi, thanks! I'll take a look at these. Yep, I had AAC in the See also and then decided to create a template that broke organizations down by continent and then, parenthetically, country. I always get confused by names that sound so similar - with no hit of where they are. I don't know if you saw it, it's at the bottom of the article now.
It still needs a bit more work up top - but I got all the books and films into the new template and the previous film template - and as I complete the article I'd like to add more information to make it useful for people who may be looking for specific types of information. Do you have any suggestions about what has been written so far to be clearer or more helpful? --CaroleHenson (talk) 10:58, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
the first article looks great! Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 11:06, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
It's a great article, I even learnt a great deal in what you wrote! Useful resources:
  • The National Autistic Society [4],  Done 9/6 - bullet added as a placeholder for more info
  • Autism Research Centre,  Done 9/6 - bullet for now
  • Department of Developmental Psychiatry,
  • University of Cambridge[5],  Done 9/6 - added to Template:Autism resources, Centers, Research + fixed the category for their Autism Research Centre so that it pulls up now in the Autism organizations category
  • Autism Research Institute, San Diego, CA[6],  Done 9/6 - added to Template:Autism resources, Centers, Research
  • Tony Attwood, Australia [7],
  • Temple Grandin [8],
  • Autism Initiatives UK[9] - new article This should probably be a new article - and then link into the template and, where appropriate, the article too

I'm not sure whether you should mention these aspects, but here they are:  Done 9/6 - added a section called "Daily life" and an intro statement for that section. Will expand on these:

  • Daily life: shopping, transport
  • Dating, marriage and sex
  • Work and employment
  • Social occasions: parties and so on...

I made the box in this article, you don't have to quote anything but I find it easy to understand and enlightening on the mechanism of autism and why it's the opposite of psychopath. [10]

Thanks for the links, I'll get to them all. I am still working my way through the overview section. I really like your ideas about touching on daily life, dating, work.... very good idea!
I was hoping the template would help with identifying resources for people, but based on your comments I'm thiking it would be good to have a section that highlights some of the key resources. You've mentioned some good ones! And, I'm not sure that "community involvement" is the right title, but I wanted to hit on what some of the key advocacy groups are working on - one of which was The Autism Dictionary that has an incredibly great training presentation. And, I'm sure I'll find more at the sites you mentioned!
I'm glad the article is already having a helpful impact. That's really lovely! Thanks! Great pointers!--CaroleHenson (talk) 12:04, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and crime and justice, many police forces are going through trainings now on how to communicate with autistic individuals. Done 9/6 - added new section

Also found this: [11] and this [12]  Done 9/6 - added to Community involvement section

I contacted Bill Gates, hopefully he can reply me.

I hope so. In the meantime, I'll check of the ones I've integrated with "done" so I can keep track.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:11, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
added some more dones - placeholders for more comments - but I'm wondering why there's no WP article for Autism Initiatives.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:30, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Regarding: "Daily life: shopping, transport Dating, marriage and sex Work and employment Social occasions: parties and so on.." added an intro statement and will expand that area.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:38, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Added done for 11 and 12. I'll come back to the other resources. Great info! If you find things for other countries, too, that would be wonderful! Excellent job!--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:08, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Updated info for research centres and added section for Justice and law in the article--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

A couple of suggestions[edit]

First, it would be good if the lead of the article would state clearly who formalized the term "autism friendly", and when this happened. Second, be careful not to overuse material that may be copyrighted. Looie496 (talk) 16:43, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Good point about when the term was first used, will do. I don't understand what you mean about not using copyrighted material - most of the information on WP is from copyrighted material - we just need to rephrase and cite it properly. I'm guessing that there's a finer point I'm missing.--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:05, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Well, it struck me that the table might be pushing the boundaries, as the text in it comes pretty from the web page. Looie496 (talk) 22:10, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Yep, I know my attempt at "WP:Close paraphrasing" (an article that I rewrote, by the way) is difficult because there's only so many ways to reword the short phrased comments (which is discussed in the CP article, do the best you can). I really debated about it because it is so difficult to C/P - I had thought about contacting The Autism Directory and asking them to look at that section and see if they're ok with it. Or, I could just put it in prose. Your thoughts?--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:19, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
I moved the examples out of the table - hopefully that helps.--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:57, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
  • And, do you know when the term was first used? I'm not easily finding it. If you do, that would be great! Otherwise I may stumble upon it as I do more writing / research.--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:31, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
I have no idea when it was first used, but I think the information in the Community Involvement section about how The Autism Directory uses it could go into the lead -- that's what makes the term notable, as far as I can see. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 22:10, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I'll see if anyone uses it before them. I've got a lot more to write before I summarize the lead, but I've added a commment <!--- in the lead section ---> so I don't miss it.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:19, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
I also did a broad search but found nothing. The first time I heard of it is when NAS local group invited me and my kids to one of the autism friendly screenings in local cinemas. That's when it all started. Before they only have the term autism awareness, but I think there's a difference in them. Autism awareness means the business passed a simple test online, has some knowledge about autism and received a certificate. But autism friendly means the business adapted their facilities to meet autistic people's need. -- RexRowan  Talk  08:59, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Table[edit]

I made a table, change wherever necessary.

People with ASD may experience the following Appropriate responding actions
Heightened personal sensory system Keep calm, do not make loud sound
Social language deficit Avoid idioms
routine following Do not disturb their routine
Anxiety Do not surprise, let them know your plans
Weak gross/fine motor skills Do not engage in vigorous activities
Obsessed interest Interest them by talking about these topics

I know it has no source, if you want, you can use these information and tables from my friend Rudy's website: [13] There's a difference between male and female traits, so maybe it's helpful to list the differences and mention the different actions can be taken? Just a suggestion. :D -- RexRowan  Talk  13:07, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Great! I had removed the table because it looked too much like WP:Close paraphrasing of the information on The Autism Directory site. I added the information not already captured in the Autism friendly#Communication and social interaction section. And, I had sources already for that info, which was great!--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:21, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
There has been some controversies related to this topic, such as the metro police, teacher and some care homes abused and humiliated some patients. Not sure if we should mention this though. Kind like two sides of a coin. -- RexRowan  Talk  17:16, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Oh, sorry, I missed the link. For the moment I'm going to put two links in the external links section: the one about the List of Asperger traits and also one to the list of female asperger traits. I'm trying to not go into too much detail in the article so that the amount of detail is not overwhelming- but provide links through the citations, external links and autism template so that people can dig into the topics they're most interested.
I think the differences between Autism and is good to mention Aspergers - and that traits may be different between men and women - is REALLY good to add to the article. So, I'll work on gathering that info and adding it to the overview section of the article.--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:47, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Some parts[edit]

Some parts of this article seem a bit promotional and unecyclopedic. However, it didn't seem wholly promotional with a skim through the article, so I didn't add a promotional tag. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:26, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I'll watch that - and make copy edits where it sounds promotional - definitely not the intention. Love your user name, by the way!--CaroleHenson (talk) 20:03, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Yep, that was good feedback. Made some changes, see what you think. I think that as more content gets added - especially about work outside of the UK - that will help balances things out as well - there's still a lot more to add.--CaroleHenson (talk) 20:13, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
You also want to be careful to avoid giving advice or instructions. You want it to sound like an encyclopedia article (remember reading those articles in school?), not a self-help book. Sentence like "In the end, working together makes our experiences together better for everyone" don't have the right tone. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:28, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

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