Talk:Automated external defibrillator

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Overlapping sections[edit]

The sections "Usage", "Mechanism of Operation" and "Simplicity of use" restate material. Some of what is in Mechanism... is clearly actually about usage. I've copied these sections to User:Nobull67/Draft/AED and will attempt a clean-up. Brian McCauley (talk) 11:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Many AED units have an 'event memory' which store the ECG of the patient along with details of the time the unit was activated and the number and strength of any shocks delivered. Some units also have voice recording abilities[citation needed] to monitor the actions taken by the personnel in order to ascertain if these had any impact on the survival outcome. All this recorded data can be either downloaded to a computer or printed out so that the providing organisation or responsible body is able to see the effectiveness of both CPR and defibrillation.

Contains a lot of padding words and could be much simplified to

Many AED units have an 'event memory' which stores the ECG along with the time the unit was activated and the number and strength of shocks. Some units have sound recording abilities[citation needed] to monitor the actions of personnel. All this data can be used to assess the effectiveness of both CPR and defibrillation.

Vandalism[edit]

This article is an occasional target for linkspam and vandalism. Please help me and Wikipedia by adding it to your watchlist and monitor it for anything inappropriate. Thanks! GeeCee 18:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Legal liability outside the USA[edit]

I have just deleted a large chunk of copyvio material taken from the Resuscitation Council UK (www.resus.org.uk). Someone who knows the legal situation better than I do should, however, put up a summary of legal liability outside the USA. Gnusmas 19:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Continued Vandalism[edit]

Given the continued vandalism by commercial organisations to this page, does anyone know how we can request the page be blocked for editing by unregistered and newly registered users? I think it would be well worth doing here. Owain.davies 05:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I requested it once but apparently the frequency of vandalism is not high enough to justify semi-protection. GeeCee 05:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, there are at least the three of us watching it. I left warning messages on the talk pages of the last two vandals.--killing sparrows (chirp!) 05:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
WP:RFP is the proper page for requesting protection. You might want to give it a shot now that we've had this last batch of vandalism on the article but compared to other articles getting semi-protection, this article is fairly low traffic. GeeCee 05:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Make that at least four people now ;). I could be entirely wrong, but looking through the history it doesn't strike me that the frequency of vandalism is too great. I suppose I'll see for myself by keeping this article watched. TheIslander 23:46, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
It would be a shame if the editing of this page was blocked due to vandalism. Might I suggest that as long as the people 'watching' this page feel able to cope that the page be left unblocked. JinHeinz 15:45, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Position of Pads[edit]

St. John Ambulance protocols now state that the lower pad is placed vertically, not horizontally, i.e. pointing the shoulder as opposed to accross the chest. I will try and find a source - if I find it, I'll remove the picture again. TheIslander 13:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

No problem, i'll do some research as well. I'm not sure if its just the pad being rotated that we should remove the picture until we have a better one. If you find a source, post it here on the talk page, and i'll see if i can't rustle up a picture to match, rather than leaving it without. sound good? Owain.davies 14:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Take a look at page 9 of this document: http://member.sja.org.uk/downloads/training/FAprotocolchanges.pdf - that's how I was taught recently, and I was told that protocals had indeed recently changed to that. I'll see if I can find anything better ;) TheIslander 15:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I see what you mean, but in honesty, the pad being straight or sideways will make no practical difference to the delivery of the shock (notice where it tells you that if you make a mistake, not to correct it). I think the diagram should stand until we can locate a free use image showing it in the new style. Owain.davies 16:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough. I assumed that, if I had been taught that this was how the pad should be placed, and actually taught that it had been done differently until recently, then it was probably important. To be frank, I'm not sure of the difference myself, but just want the article to be as accurate as possible. I'll see if I can find a better free use image, but I agree now that the picture there can probably stand until and if one is found. Cheers ;) TheIslander 18:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The Resuscitation Council (UK) in The use of Automated External Defibrillators (2005) also states the mid-axillary pad should be oriented vertically. The Council are, presumably, the source of the SJA policy. The document cites Deakin, CD; Sado DM, Petley GW, Clewlow F (January 2003). "Is the orientation of the apical defibrillation paddle of importance during manual external defibrillation?". Resuscitation. 56 (1): 15–18. Retrieved 2008-11-09.  Cite uses deprecated parameter |coauthors= (help) (Abstract Retrieved on 9 November 2008). As a matter of personal opinion use of the "horizontal/vertical" terminology (both by the Resuscitation Council and Deakin et al) is confusing when the patient is recumbent as they generally are during resuscitation. Brian McCauley (talk) 09:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Canada Section[edit]

User:SafteyNet, the text that you keep adding does not seem appropriate to this article. The text a) looks like it has been copied and pasted from elsewhere, b) is very Canada-specific - most of that info is already elsewhere in the article, and c) looks as though it's just been dropped in - please carefully incorperate new additions to existing material. Please state the reasons why you believe the info you're adding to be important to include. TheIslander 18:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Misc[edit]

Redirected link for nitrile gloves from the functional group -CN to nitrile rubber. 66.105.208.42 19:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)Tom

New source of info[edit]

This IEEE Spectrum article should be a good source for helping with filling in some new content. However, it may not help with the ~3-4 areas that are marked with 'citation needed'. Wish I had time to help edit it myself. - Donjrude (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

What happened here?[edit]

At the beginning of the Section Placement and Availability, what is this supposed to mean?

"Automated external defibrillators are generally either held by trained personnel who will attend events or are public access units which can be found in places including corporate and government offices, shopping centres, airports, airplanes"842U (talk) 14:06, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Should AED redirect here?[edit]

The topic is particularly hard to spell out correctly, so people are more likely to search for "AED" and be directed first to the dab page AED. Furthermore, the abbreviation universally refers to this specific device; should we just make AED redirect here directly and move the dab page appropriately? <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 12:36, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

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poorly contructed sentence - meaning what?[edit]

The asystolic patient only has a chance of survival if, through a combination of CPR and cardiac stimulant drugs, one of the shockable rhythms can be established, which makes it imperative for CPR to be carried out prior to the arrival of a defibrillator. 47.140.183.186 (talk) 21:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)