Talk:Autonomous sensory meridian response

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Nonsense Article, Call for Deletion[edit]

Entire article is nonsense, without sources or references that are viable from ordinary media, appears to be a joke/meme intended to get a nonsense and pseudoscience, hearsay based subject placed on Wikipedia. Should be removed. It belongs on other types of websites, not Wikipedia. --RM, March 31, 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radical Mallard (talkcontribs) 04:09, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I completely agree. You can't create encyclopedia articles about any fad that comes along, much less youtube and facebook memes. It's ridiculous. OF COURSE it's nice to have pretty girls whisper sweet things --- we new that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:ced5:cb40:344c:486f:d041:2272 (talk) 05:59, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
Do you have proof ASMR is a hoax intended to "Get a nonsense and pseudoscience, hearsay subject placed on Wikipedia." Because that is quite the accusation and quite frankly sounds a whole lot of hearsay coming from yourself and other Wikipedians that are genuinely obsessed with deleting articles related to subculture in general. Come back with some evidence and maybe the consensus will change ~~ep — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.217.163.207 (talk) 11:00, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Subculture, by definition, is not encylopedic. The burden of proof is on the protaganist, you can't flip it onto the antagonist, otherwise ANY article is valid!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:ced5:cb40:344c:486f:d041:2272 (talk) 05:59, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
If you believe that, then you really have no idea what Wikipedia is all about. Anything can be encyclopedic, and we're going to cover it if the concept can be verified, regardless of whether it has a basis in reality. Take RF resonant cavity thruster (EM drive) for example...folks claim it is real, and there's some tangential evidence that *something* is going on, but no one has any proof that it works or how it works. Still, we cover it. Huntster (t @ c) 08:04, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
OP: I won't comment on the rest of your statements, but as someone who experiences this, I can assure you this is no joke or meme. Huntster (t @ c) 11:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
RM, I assure you this is real. I assumed that everybody experiences that, but it turns out this is not the case. I hadn't a name for this until now and I am glad there is a page about that in Wikipedia. It should stay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.57.206.165 (talk) 14:16, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
No offence, but “I can assure you”, even if typed by multiple users, is a fairly weak argument. However, some phenomena just need some time until they are found to be real or pathological science (such as N rays or Polywater).--Kernpanik (talk) 21:13, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
RM, I'm having one right now as I type. I assure you they are real. I'm 52 years old and I've had them since I was in single digits. Tingling at top of head, accompanied by waves of a very nice sensation all the way down to my ankles. Non-sexual. Sort of puts me into a mellow "trance." Not mentally, but emotionally. That part is a bit difficult to describe. A very wonderful, pleasant experience. No bad side effects. I've always wondered what this was, but only recently searched about it on the web and happily discovered others experience it too. The main trigger for me is usually fascination with some new topic or other. If you think this is a joke, you're just fooling yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.8.202.135 (talk) 18:16, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

This subject was reported on NPR's This American Life. http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/491/tribes?act=2. Not sure if anybody can use this in the WP article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.216.74.168 (talk) 14:23, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

It's already been included in the article :) Huntster (t @ c) 19:43, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi, infrequent contributor to neuroscience, immunology, and physiology articles. ASMR drives me nuts with tingles. I just sent $20 to a random person on the internet who makes the videos because they're so pleasurable. Nobody is hoaxing anyone and do you really think there'd be that many people out there flocking in the hundreds of thousands to watch these videos just because they're trying to play a game with you? Tough luck that you can't feel it though, it's the 2nd most pleasurable sensory experience to sex imo. Bloomingdedalus (talk) 01:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
The fact that you just spent $20 to hear someone whisper to you on a computer doesn't give any credence to it at all. It's a little creepy to be honest. 107.199.113.209 (talk) 23:01, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

For what it's worth, even a pseudoscience or hoax can merit a Wikipedia article; sometimes, the buzz or reaction to it can become the story. Having experienced the described sensation myself, I personally know it's no hoax (but can't prove it to Wikipedia's standards). But as the article currently states, science has not yet come up with a satisfactory explanation for the phenomenon. As it is now, it makes sense that the article focuses on the (verifiable) Internet buzz surrounding the phenomenon, while noting that scientific tests have remained inconclusive. Once we have scientific findings on the phenomenon to cite, we can change the focus of the article to the phenomenon itself. (Incidentally, I'd hope that scientists come up with a real name for it, so we can ditch the sciencey-sounding psychobabble term "ASMR." I'm at a loss trying to figure out how the coiner decided that "meridian" was a synonym for "orgasm"...) --Fran Rogers (talk) 05:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I'd guess instead that "meridian response" was a synonym for "orgasm", but know too little of meridian and orgasms to be sure. The word 'Meridian' does not occur in Wikipedia's Orgasm article. Google suggests it is a word from the fringe medicine field, meaning 'energy pathway', where 'energy' is meant not physically (Joules) but in the Qi sense of acupuncture etc. It's all rather vague and unscientific. IMO.--195.137.93.171 (talk) 03:39, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Who are these people that revert everything you submit?! So frustrating. I submitted that one can feel this tingly rush or flood of endorphins from the cranium down the spine upon seeing a crush or celebrity. Vid2vid (talk) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

I suggest that this Talk section be moved from it's pole position as it is now obsolete as ASMR is a definite thing requiring a Wiki entry, just like homosexuality, homophobia, belief, tickling, itch and phobia. Just because you can't experience it and because it can't be seen or touched doesn't mean it doesn't exist or make it invalid. The ASMR Research Project has had over 25,000 participants responding to it's survey on ASMR. Youtube ASMR specialist video makers are making a living full-time from producing these niche videos to satisfy the (non-sexual) demands of ASMR-able people. Andrew ranfurly (talk) 22:29, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

@Andrew ranfurly: Please see WP:TPG. Generally we don't delete talk page sections simply because they are obsolete, because they still serve as a record of past consensus. Older talk page entries can be archived, if necessary, and this page already has such an archive. This talk page section was started in 2013, and by contributing to it, we are extending its "lifespan" such that the automated script which archives posts will now treat it as current. Incidentally, I would also recommend not adding ref tags to talk pages unless necessary, but if you are not sure if these links meet WP:RS, you could start a new talk section proposing how to include them in the article itself. Grayfell (talk) 22:44, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for this response. I can see you are quite correct in all of your comments and I blush at my errors. When I turned to this TP and saw the first entry as 'Nonsense Article, Call for Deletion' I felt a strong urge to respond (and to back my remarks up with refs was a reflex). Andrew ranfurly (talk) 22:55, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
No prob, I've done the same thing. Wikipedia has been running for almost twenty years, and it really shows its age on the talk pages. I think the reason this section wasn't already archived was due to technical issues with the signatures. I've hopefully fixed that, but we'll see. Grayfell (talk) 23:01, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

The entire article is so poorly researched and so poorly written that it should be reduced to a stub and locked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.11.42 (talk) 12:19, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

more recent study: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/asmr-health-psychological-benefits-1.787541, should this be included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.32.44.85 (talk) 06:45, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

ok to remove clarify tag?[edit]

So I did edit changing a paragraph and was really tempted to removed the associated clarify tag, since I replaced statement on merdian (that warranted the clarify tag) with direct quote. Is it ok to remove the clarify tag at the end of that paragraph? --EarthFurst (talk) 07:43, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I went ahead and did so. I also linked to a Dictionary.com entry which specifically uses this definition, and which attributes it to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary. Huntster (t @ c) 10:35, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

ok to remove original research and synthesis tag[edit]

there are references. it verifiably mentions and pertains to the topic. its a bs tag and i'm gonna remove it since no one is talking about it and its plainly wrong.

same with original research. tag or delete the specific places claimed to be original research. i see plenty of references. again, no one is even talking about it -- silent consensus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.59.140.57 (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

It's real[edit]

I know what this is article is referring to. It's real. When I watch product reviews on Youtube where someone is crumpling plastic bags or packaging. 108.200.234.93 (talk) 06:03, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Weird tags when searching in ecosia[edit]

When searching for ASMR in the search engine Ecosia, weird tags show up: "yeah you like that little bitch". These tags are not in the article itself. Does anyone know how to remove this? K2AA72 (talk) 17:17, 28 June 2019 (UTC)K2AA72

That from a previous vandalized version. It should go away once Ecosia refreshes their listing for the Wikipedia entry. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:26, 28 June 2019 (UTC)