Talk:B movies (Hollywood Golden Age)

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Former good article nominee B movies (Hollywood Golden Age) was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
May 20, 2008 Good article nominee Not listed
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Fair use rationale for Image:LadiesCravePoster.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot 05:18, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Licensing info updated per research.—DCGeist 08:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

"B-Westerns" are not "cowboy programmers"[edit]

It irks me that "Saturday matinee cowboy features" (epitomized by the works of William "Hopalong Cassidy" Boyd, Gene Autry and Roy Rogers) are so often called "B-Westerns," because they are simply not the same thing, and certainly Wikipedia should not perpetuate this false belief. In the 1930s, while John Wayne was cranking out many of the former for Lone Star Productions (supposedly a pseudonym for Monogram Pictures, but this does not appear to be the case--that's another debate, however) and then Republic, Randolph Scott was starring in the latter for Paramount, a series of adaptations of Zane Grey stories (The Thundering Herd, for one). The absolute proof of the distinction involves Universal Studios: When new management took over in 1947 and rechristened the place Universal-International, they shut down the programmer division. No more serials or "cowboy" features, but nobody would claim that the Francis the Talking Mule or Ma and Pa Kettle pictures they produced in the 1950s were anything but "Bs." These are (or were, since both no longer exist) absolutely two different production levels and, I submit, Wiki should be making an effort to set the record straight. Ted Watson (talk) 20:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

GA on hold[edit]

Hello. I will be doing the Good Article review for this article. Here are some things that need to be fixed before I can pass the article:

  • Per WP:LEAD, the lead needs to be three or four full paragraphs fully describing all the main points of the article.
  • The captions for the images are far too long. Wikipedia:Captions has some good guidelines for writing appropriate captions.
  • The first paragraph under Rise of the double feature: 1930s needs citations.
  • There is some jargon in the article that should be explained. Ex. Blind bidding, block booking, etc. It's good to blue link them to definitions, but a quick definition in the text is more helpful to readers.
  • The quote "straddle[d] the A-B boundary," needs a ref.
  • The three columned list in Rise of the double feature: 1930s, looks odd to me. Is there a better way to format that? Maybe a table or a different type of list?
  • Taves estimates that half of the films produced by the eight majors in the 1930s were B movies. - needs the ref for where exactly he said that.
  • The block quote in Cowboys and dogs needs to be formatted with <blockquote></blockquote>.
  • Avoid contractions. Wasn't --> Was not.
  • In most cases, numbers under 100 should be spelled out.

The hold will last one week. Good luck improving the article. Nikki311 02:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The hold still has a couple of more hours, but I am going to fail this article as no progress has been made. Nikki311 01:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Taves's name[edit]

Someone may say

Gosh, if his name really is "Brain", a lot of people would change it to "Brian" without checking.

True enuf. But surely his publisher got it right on the cover of his book, whose facsimile is low-res but utterly inconsistent with "Brain".
--Jerzyt 19:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


That is an interesting concept as it is described in the article.
But, unless I have overlooked something, no examples are given.
What are some famous programmers with "intermediate" budgets?
Varlaam (talk) 18:41, 3 June 2012 (UTC)