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Gigawatts[edit]

Doc Brown isn't "mispronouncing" the word as presented in the video. "Giga" is Greek in origin, and the hard-g pronunciation is simply more common (as in "gigabyte") while not being any more correct (and in fact would be closer to mispronouncing the word). Atypicaloracle (talk) 21:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

...as already stated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Back_to_the_Future/Archive_2#Pronunciation_of_.22gigawatt.22, but should the word "mispronounces" be removed or not, hmm... perhaps. Yeah, I think so. -- Lyverbe (talk) 23:06, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Both pronunciations are acceptable. I have amended "mispronounced" to "pronounced" and inserted references to two dictionaries supporting this.[1] sroc (talk) 13:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
The UK and the US pronunciations are different. So to most people in the UK it sounds wrong but we still understand it.
(UK) IPA(key): /ˈɡɪɡə/, /ˈɡaɪɡə/
(US) IPA(key): /ˈɡɪɡə/, /ˈdʒɪɡə/
It is odd that this is even mentioned because it is trivia. And what about the cat, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n29pzwK3UXI QuentinUK (talk) 07:31, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Cast[edit]

How about a simple cast list instead of the character breakdown currently on the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beetfarm Louie (talkcontribs) 10:05, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

A "simpler" cast list can be found in the franchise article. I assume the way it's been done here is to explain why the actor was chosen. -- Lyverbe (talk) 13:28, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Cast list[edit]

A new "Cast List" section has recently been added to the Back to the Future articles. Some editors have seen this new section has been helpful, some have seen it as being useless and some are indifferent. For the good health of the articles, please express your opinion about this section on the franchise article. -- Lyverbe (talk) 15:12, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Source of BTTF album[edit]

@Paradoctor: I fail to understand why you removed that source (again?) regarding the BTTF album. WP:ELNO #5 talks about single web PAGES, not web SITES. As for WP:SPS, it talks about self-published sources which is not the case here (i.e. it is not WP:FANSITE). If you insist on removing the source, you need to find another one. -- Lyverbe (talk) 01:14, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

@Lyverbe:
ELNO Is the cite to a page or a site?
SPS Please read the second footnote. Is there editorial control over Etsy listings?
"you need to find another" Nope, WP:BURDEN. You might want to check the article on the soundtrack, maybe it has a good source. Paradoctor (talk) 00:45, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
ELNO #5 is for pages, not sites, so it does not apply. As for Etsy, it's a huge company, not just something running as a server in someone's basement, so it is somewhat valid. The "somewhat" is because the items sold on it come from people like you and me which might not be considered reliable. Honestly, I can't tell. As for WP:BURDEN, you can't use that because it's there to say "If you say something, prove it's true", not "If you remove a proof, it's someone else's job to prove it some other way". -- Lyverbe (talk) 01:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
ELNO You did not answer my question. If you did, you would have realized that the cite is to a page, not to Etsy.
"I can't tell" If you yourself can't tell, you can't claim it is reliable, now can you?
"remove a proof" I did not remove a "proof", I removed a non-proof, and I made my case that it is indeed not a reliable source for the claim. If you think otherwise, the burden is on you to show that a) the cite directly supports the claim and b) that either the author is a recognized expert or that there indeed was editorial control.
If that doesn't satisfy you, and can't produce new arguments to convince me of the error of my ways, and want to reinsert the cite, you'll have to begin dispute resolution, because, as it is now, I will not let this cite return. If you do, it would probably be a good idea to start with WP:3O. Paradoctor (talk) 11:06, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
... I didn't contest the claim, only the ref, but, hey, suit yourself. Paradoctor (talk) 12:05, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Resolved
All I'm saying is that if you're personally not satisfied with a ref, you add another one or replace it, not remove it and tell other editors to do your task of finding a better one. The claim no longer as a ref so it can't stay there and that's why I removed it completely instead of adding a {{cn}} that will never be taken care of. -- Lyverbe (talk) 15:42, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
"personally not satisfied" That was not a matter of personal taste, or even editorial judgment. The ref plainly and utterly failed to do what it should. It served only to drive traffic to an Etsy shop. FYI: This link was one of more than thirty of this type added by the same editor, all pointing to the same Etsy shop.
Maybe this will help you see the light: Ignore the lack of reliability, just try to show that the claim is supported by the ref. You'll find you can't.
"never be taken care of" Perspective, attain it you must, young padawan. Face-wink.svg I have occasionally resolved cn's that had existed for years. Wikipedia's a huge project, and there's no WP:DEADLINE. Paradoctor (talk) 01:11, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't entirely agree there...if the source is blatantly unreliable then removing it and tagging the statement with CN is appropriate; if the reliability is merely questionable then Template:Verify credibility might be a better approach, perhaps with an appropriate Talk page thread here. That said, while removing a source may not be best practice, I don't believe there's any policy explicitly prohibiting the practice if there are well-meaning reliability concerns. Also it seems rather pessimistic to assume a CN tag will "never be taken care of". One way or another it will be in time, whether via the addition of a source or via the moving of the material here or its deletion. Just my two cents. DonIago (talk) 16:27, 28 October 2014 (UTC)