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Wolf Creek[edit]

I think the last paragraph, about the film Wolf Creek, could use refinement.

The link below is a movie review written by someone who spoke to the director at Sundance Film Festival. It states "He [being Director Greg Mclean] explained that the film was basically a composite of two or three absolutely true stories that took place in the outback and details all the way down to the killings, were based off of these cases (sidenote: these were referred to as the "Backpacker Murders" committed along the Hume Highway by Ivan Milat between 1989 and 1992)". The sidenote being a sidenote, written in retrospect, i think it is enough to say that all three stories (backpack murders, snowtown murders, peter falconio disappearance) do play a part in Wolf Creek.

Review: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/review/460

I removed the following, because the source doesn't support the assertion. The source is a film review that says the movie is an insult to Milat's victims, but doesn't actually assert that the film is based on the murders. The Wolf Creek article doesn't say that the film is based on these murders either, but rather the Falconio murder. While the film may well be based on the murders, we need a reliable source that confirms that it actually was. Ashmoo (talk) 10:00, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

The events depicted in the 2005 Australian horror film Wolf Creek were loosely based upon his crimes.[1]

I think it's fair to call Milat an "inspiration" for the film Wolf Creek. The killer's hideout in the film is an abandoned mining facility with the name: "Navitalim Mining Co." Navitalim being Ivan Milat spelled backwards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.143.27.30 (talk) 20:40, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

References

Unreferenced Chat[edit]

Below moved out of main article: Directors have allegedly said that it was based on the Snowtown murders, not either of these. Many members of the public have expressed outrage at the backpacker murders being linked to the movie, because the backpacker murders could not have been conducted in the way described in the Wolf Creek movie. This is explained by the directors who have stated that it is about the Snowtown murders, not the backpacker murders. Media, however, have incorrectly linked the backpacker murders to Wolf Creek, and suggested that the profile of the psychopath in the movie is based on Ivan Milat. To make things even more complex, the description for the official Wolf Creek website at Yahoo says that the movie is "based on the true events of the 'Backpacker Murders'" and also states this on the back of the DVD case of the movie.

  • Note: The director states that the killer in wolf creek is based on Milat and even some of the torture scenes: "Greg McLean: That’s real! That whole sequence is taken from the Milat case. When I read that I couldn’t believe it. That’s what he did to some of his victims, and that’s probably some of the worst stuff I’ve heard my whole life."

Format 19:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Where's the authority for the wild claim that he 'made love' to Savvas every night? Sounds like someone's trying to further demonise the demon. That sort of claim definitely needs some evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.19.119 (talk) 13:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC) In fact, given it was recently added, seems pointless and has no reference, I'll remove it. Put it back in if there's any evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.19.119 (talk) 13:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Missing third and fourth case[edit]

The first and second cases, and the fifth, sixth and seventh case are listed in this article, but the third and fourth case of James Gibson and Deborah Everitt are missing. I assume they were accidentally deleted. Does anyone have a copy of the correct text? 202.155.163.138 15:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Restored. DH85868993 13:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Suicide attempt?[edit]

Since when is cutting off your little finger, a suicide attempt? The heading of that should be changed to something a little less melodramatic. Any suggestions? SJ2571 (talk) 11:28, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I second that, although I have no suggestions for the heading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennifer8675309 (talkcontribs) 16:48, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Like you I'm not sure what to call it but since the finger was placed in an envelope addressed to the High Court I suspect it has something to do with an appeal, so it at least seems in the right place on the page. --AussieLegend (talk) 17:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Another discovery[edit]

So, maybe someone wants to update the article. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/belanglo-bones-scattered-around-forest/story-e6frf7l6-1225913076090 --88.207.223.115 (talk) 18:23, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

No link to Milat, so what's to update? WWGB (talk) 23:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Is now- http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/ivan-milat-laughed-at-death-in-belanglo-forest/story-e6frf7l6-1225959921822 110.174.169.36 (talk) 22:26, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Psychology and Profiling of Milat[edit]

Possibly here or in an article on its own it would be appropriate to list some of the Psychologist and Profiler comments made about this case. They not only give an insight into Milat's mind but that of psychopaths in general, and are in the informative spirit of this encylopedia. 110.174.169.36 (talk) 22:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Discovery discussion inconsistency (Suggested rewrite)[edit]

From the First and Second cases:

"It was also possible that the bodies were of a young Victorian couple, Deborah Everist and James Gibson, who had been missing since leaving Frankston in 1989".

From the Third and Forth Cases:

"The presence of Gibson's body in Belanglo was a puzzle to investigators as his backpack and camera had previously been discovered by the side of the road at Galston Gorge, in the northern Sydney suburbs almost 100 kilometres (62 mi) to the north".

I agree that it would be "possible" that the first bodies were that of the Victorian couple, but only in the same sense that it could have "possibly" been anyone missing at this time. Given that the discovery of Gibson was puzzling at this location, I cannot see a direct motivation to have considered him as a potential candidate. I think the whole First and Second cases paragraph needs a rewrite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tillhouse (talkcontribs) 02:25, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Other missing persons[edit]

Came across a 2006 source that mentions Milat in relation to, or as a suspect for several other notable missing persons cases. i.e. Disappearance of Michelle Pope and Stephen Lapthorne from August 1978

Les Kennedy (May 22, 2006) "Ivan Milat a prime suspect again" Sydney Morning Herald, Retrieved 17 September 2015.

- 220 of Borg 05:30, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

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