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A barbell is not just the bar, as stated in this article, but the bar and one or more sets of plates (or fixed weights). The bar by itself is properly called a "bar". I'll fix this in an edit. Jayess (talk) 22:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

This is false. A barbell is a barbell, plates are plates. 76.99.24.196 (talk) 01:44, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

No, in fact the earlier assertion by Jayess is correct, at least for Olympic weightlifting. The IWF states clearly that the barbell consists of the bar and the discs. See my comment below and http://www.iwf.net/weightlifting_/equipment/109.123.116.246 (talk) 06:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


EZ-curl barbells are commonly used for more than just curls and lying triceps extensions. They're definitely used for upright rows, a bit of info that someone deleted a while back, so I put it back in. In fact, the upright row article shows a woman performing this exercise with an EZ handle instead of a straight handle. Heavy close-grip bench presses also require an ez bar. Jayess (talk) 01:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


It would be useful to add the official diameter of the various plates. In purchasing plates, I have noticed some slight variance. It would be good to know which are correct.71.50.1.21 (talk) 04:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)== Dubious standard barbell bar weight ==

The article states that standard barbell bars weigh 10 kg (22 lbs). The source for this info is a blog. Blogs are not considered reliable sources. Looking up solid standard barbells for sale suggests a 5 ft bar weighs about 14.4 lbs and a 6 ft bar weighs about 17.75 lbs. --JHP (talk) 06:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

History?[edit]

I believe the history of the barbell should be discussed as well.71.247.14.245 (talk) 00:55, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I concur! (2 years later...) 108.253.244.192 (talk) 20:00, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
I also concur (7 years later...) Also would be nice to have a section on the etymology of the word "barbell". 74.95.43.249 (talk) 19:59, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Bench Press Photo Caption[edit]

"...in a station with a rail above the neck but below the breast..." The meaning of this isn't clear (to me at least). Does it mean over the neck (ventral direction) or towards the head? MartinezMD (talk) 05:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Olympic weightlifting equipment specifications - International Weightlifting Federation (IWF)[edit]

The official body that sets the rules for Olympic weightlifting is the International Weightlifting Federation (IWF) founded in 1905. See http://www.iwf.net

The assertions in the section here entitled 'Olympic barbells' therefore need to be consistent with the IWF rules for Olympic weightlifting equipment. Currently they are not. For example, the Wikipage subsection entitled 'Collars' currently states incorrectly the following:

Standard collars can be of any material, usually metal, and they can weigh up to 2.5 kg each for both men and women.

In fact, the IWF states clearly in its equipment subsection entitled 'The Collars' that:

In order to secure the discs to the bar, each bar must be equipped with two collars weighing 2.5 kg each for men and women.

The current IWF equipment specifications, from the IWF Equipment page at http://www.iwf.net/weightlifting_/equipment/, for the Barbell state:

Barbell Only barbells meeting IWF specifications and approval may be used in weightlifting competitions under its jurisdiction.

The barbell consists of the following parts:

The Bar The men’s bar weighs 20 kg and the women’s bar weighs 15 kg and must meet special specifications. Markings on the bars:

Weightlifting bars must have coloured identification markings to facilitate their recognition. The men’s bar must have blue markings and the women’s bar yellow markings. These colours correspond to those of the 20 kg and 15 kg discs.

The Discs The discs must be of the following weights and colours:

25 kg red; 20 kg blue; 15 kg yellow; 10 kg green; 5 kg white; 2.5 kg red; 2 kg blue; 1.5 kg yellow; 1 kg green; 0.5 kg white.

The diameter of the largest discs: 450 mm with a tolerance of ± 1 mm.

The 450 mm discs must be covered with rubber or plastic and coated on both sides with permanent colours or painted at least on the surface of the rim.

The discs lighter than ten (10) kg may be made of metal or other material as approved.

All the discs must have a clear indication of their weight.

The Collars In order to secure the discs to the bar, each bar must be equipped with two collars weighing 2.5 kg each for men and women.

109.123.116.246 (talk) 06:31, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Bearings?[edit]

In describing the characteristics of the bar, several references are made to the bearings supporting the plates, and to the need for faster rotation in some applications. Some explanation of why the plates would be allowed to freewheel would be helpful (if in fact the meaning of those lines was that the weights do freewheel?). 76.118.1.171 (talk) 18:04, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Uh, you are not going to find scientific journal explaining why heavy weights should be allowed to freewheel, it's just common sense since 1928, see Dresdin article I've cited. I would promptly explain it as good as I could if somebody would ask my in private (because I have personal experience with fixed Olympic bars too), but here that would be shunned as "original research". Think of how Olympic lifts are executed on high level. Speaking of rotation speed, this is matter of preference, but high rotation speed is preferred by current Olympic lifters.

One more thing (only slightly related), Wikipedia has quite big systematic problem, see for example Strength_training, article is total mess full of bodybuilding lingo and myths, because everyone who have read Men's Health once felt qualified to plug something, yet when somebody clearly competent about strength training started editing it (and this is rarely the case, as such people usually have better things to do IRL), was shunned because he used his book as reference. (User:Bigbosstrom) Really, weightlifting is mainly empirical and experience driven field (apart from old soviet manuals), and "pop-bodybuilidng" is in quality last source to draw from, even if extensively cited.--94.78.188.4 (talk) 09:53, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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