Talk:Barmakids

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Shouldnt Barmakid link here? Just a thought...

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I removed a section that was not very well integrated and lacked sources; I haven't found any other references to the al Taleebi.

Disgrace and fall
Harun al-Rashid and the Barmakids were like family before the dilemma. Yahya bin Khaild raised Harun with his other sons Al Fadal bin Yahya, Jafar bin Yahya, Mossa bin Yahya and Mohammed bin Yahya. After Harun became the Kalifa he assigned Yahya bin Khaild as his prime minister. He also assigned Al Fadal major chief and mossa the head military chief. Jafar hover was given the possession of several provinces and the raising of the Khalifa Harun's child Al Ma'amoon.
Although the Barmakids have done a lot that promote Harron and his country the rift from what happened between the allies caused Harun to punish them.
Historians were uncertain of the cause that led Harun to demolish the Barmakids. However the rumor about Harun sister and Jafar is untrue. The following may clear what caused the Barmakids sad end.
Harun al-Rashid sent al Al Fadal to al Taleebi (another rivaling tribe) to sign a peace treaty without violence or bloodshed. A while later after signing the treaty as Harun expcted al Taleebi broke the treaty. So Harun ordered he be captured and kept with Jafar bin Yahya. However one night Jafar and Yahya al Taleebi met secretly to plan Yahya's escape. Jafar freed him and gave him money to flee from Baghdad. When Harun al Rashid knew of this great betrayal he ordered Jafar's death and the imprisonment of the rest of his family. Harun was scared of the Taleebi clan and would not risk the Taleebi and Barmakids joining forces to destroy the Abassids.

If you find anything worth putting back in in there; feel free. flammifertalk 11:41, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

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"The family has its origin in a line of hereditary priests (Sanskrit प्रमुख Pramukh, arabized to Barmak) at the Buddhist monastery of Nava Vihara (Nawbahar) west of Balkh[1]."

Intothefire (talk) 07:27, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

References[edit]

  1. ^ Encyclopedia Iranica, "Barmakids" by I. Abbas [1]


"Barmecide feast"[edit]

That expression should be explained in this article, not just vaguely alluded to... AnonMoos (talk) 14:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Rit Nosotro[edit]

References taken from this source should be excluded, as this author is not actually a real person. Rit Nosotro's perspective also seems to be very biased on this matter. The author predominantly favors a Christian religious perspective when he should actually be objective while dealing with history, as historians it is our duty to try and find the truth, not to pass judgment. The level of his bias can be seen from the following citation that is taken from the source used in this article; "Also, the predominately Muslim state worshiped Allah rather than the true God. Thus, they violated God-given law; Jesus declared [16], "Worship the Lord your God and serve him only." . Rit Nosotro's Methodology is flawed. Use with care.

Barmecides[edit]

The article states that Barmecides is incorrect because the third syllable is not a sibilant, but there is no sibilant inherent in Barmecides, being an obvious Romanization, where c was never pronounced as a sibilant. Whoever wrote this seems to believe that modern English pronunciation apparently supersedes historical pronunciation in resolving accuracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.220.42.13 (talk) 22:51, 14 April 2013 (UTC)