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I am the first to agree that categories can be arbitrary, and Caravaggio himself would not have referred to himself as mannered or baroque. I think categories should help orient us to differences. Clearly Caravaggio was different than most of his precursors, and certainly from his mentor Cavaliere d'Arpino. I find D'Arpino mannerist: he seems to be assaying contortions and crowding in his painting. I find mannerism is an art of seeing how many classical greek statues one can quote in one canvas. Or perhaps it was Michelangelo's comment on Vasari's boast on completing the Cancelleria palace frescoes in record time. I see, said Michelangelo, I see. Finally, Wittkower's book on Italian art 1600-1750 starts with Baroque and ends with either proto-neoclassicism or rococo. Freedberg's circa 1600 also points to the change that has occurred with the works of Caravaggio and Caracci, these are not mannerist works, they are a new trend. The new trend is called Baroque. Rococo1700 (talk) 20:20, 9 April 2016 (UTC)