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Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2022[edit]
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Change "Bats are more maneuverable than most birds" to "bats are more agile in flight than most birds". 69.165.227.98 (talk) 21:01, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Done Zippybonzo | talk 16:42, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2022[edit]
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In section 3.6.1 Torpor there is an incorrect claim made due to a misreading of the citation material and should be removed.
"Around 97% of all microbats use torpor." which cites reference 106:
Geiser, F.; Stawski, C. (2011). "Hibernation and Torpor in Tropical and Subtropical Bats in Relation to Energetics, Extinctions, and the Evolution of Endothermy". Integrative and Comparative Biology. 51 (3): 337–338. doi:10.1093/icb/icr042.
The paper includes the following text "The 10 families containing heterothermic species, which are distributed into the tropics/subtropics number 1079 or 96.7% of the currently recognized 1116 species (Wilson and Reeder 2005). Obviously, not all of these species are likely to be heterothermic, and only ∼35 species have been confirmed to be, but based on current data a large number of tropical/subtropical bats are likely to employ torpor for conserving energy." The 96.7% (from which the 97% is derived) refers to the number of bat species that are in families that include heterotherms, and even then states that the majority but not all of those may employ torpor.
This misreading probably comes from the confusing phrasing in the abstract of the paper: "Overall, torpor in the tropics/subtropics has been reported for 10 out of the currently recognized 18 bat families, which contain 1079 species, or 96.7% of all bats."
Therefore the claim that 97% of microbats use torpor is incorrect and should be removed. Also, the original claim from the paper was not even just about microbats; I don't know how that got changed.
ZonKonigin (talk) 19:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- @ZonKonigin: Sorry it took so long for someone to notice your request. Thanks for pointing this out! — Coolperson177 (t|c) 16:56, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
How much they eat[edit]
It says: "Insectivorous bats may eat over 120 percent of their body weight, while frugivorous bats may eat over twice their weight.".
It stands to reason that a bat must have eaten at least 100% of its body-weight over the course of its lifetime. But this statistic is meaningless without saying what the timescale is. I presume it's per day, but I don't have access to the cited source.
Can someone with access to the source fix it?
MrDemeanour (talk) 14:16, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2023[edit]
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Change "Most of the oldest known bat fossils were already very similar to modern microbats, such as Archaeopteropus (32 million years ago)." to "Most of the oldest known bat fossils were already very similar to modern microbats, such as Archaeopteropus (32 million years ago). The oldest known bat fossil is the Icaronycteris gunnelli (52 million years ago). The two sets of fossils were discovered in Wyoming." AAAAAA14 (talk) 13:35, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Actualcpscm (talk) 14:36, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
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