Talk:Bat Masterson

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Removed this from the Television section. "Does anyone know if any of them still exist and if so where these commercials may be stored? My father was featured in one of them and I would like to find a copy of it. "

thought it might better fit here. --Michaelcoyote 01:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Ambiguity about treatment of prisoner[edit]

"Soon after his arrival, Masterson came into conflict with the local marshal over the treatment of a man being arrested." Is it known whether it was Masterson or the marshal who was treating the man roughly?

Richard O'Connor in his book, Bat Masterson, describes the incident on pages 97 and 98. Bobby Gill, "who was slightly wobble-headed", was jeering at Marshal Larry Deger of Dodge City. Marshal Larry Deger was kicking Bobby Gill towards jail and Bat Masterson intervened on behalf of Bobby Gill by putting Marshal Deger in an arm lock and "...allowed Bobby Gill to scamper away to temporary freedom." Bat Masterson was disarmed by Deputy Marshal Joe Mason and subdued by several bystanders and "They held Bat while Deger pistol-whipped him..." Bat Masterson was put in jail and Bobby Gill was arrested during the night. The next day Bat Masterson was fined $25 and a "remorseful" Bobby Gill was fined $5.

"A few days later the Dodge City Council showed its sympathy for Masterson by ordering that the fine be remitted."

Richard O'Connor, Bat Masterson, Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 57-9508, Copy Right 1957 —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:12, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Date of birth[edit]

In this article it's November 26, but he's also in article November_24. What is the correct date?

There's no mention of his having been married or having children... how can he be Ballard's great grandfather??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:33, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Popular Media[edit]

Wasn't there a movie around the 1940's or 50's, entitled "Bat Masterson" and starring Rendolph Scott? We distinctly remember it being advertised, with Scott wearing a ten-gallon hat with rolled-up brim, but unfortunately never got to see the movie. Martin Safran 8/26/07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:41, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Genealogical Verification[edit]

I am unable to find any biographical information indicating that Bat Masterson had any children. I would appreciate clarification and/or verification of the claim that Robert Ballard is Bat's great-grandson. Tysonvr (talk) 17:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

unsupported claims[edit]

"The character Sky Masterson, from the musical Guys and Dolls, was based on Bat Masterson." The character was named by Damon Runyon -- did he ever indicate there was any connection, other than that both characters were gamblers? One might as well assert that Fat Bastard in the Austin Powers films is based on Bat Masterson because the names are similar. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 12:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

the cane[edit]

"The story that he needed to carry a cane for the rest of his life is a legend perpetuated by the TV series starring the late Gene Barry." Though the story about his needing a cane might have had wide circulation, the TV series never shows him leaning on it or using to assist his walking. He carries it as a gentleman's prop, and uses it, on occasion, to beat the **** out of people. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 11:38, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


In the Battle of the Plaza section, this passage is confusing and appears to contradict itself:

Bat boarded the next stagecoach and arrived in Dodge City on April 16. Getting off the train before it stopped...

A stagecoach and a train are completely different means of conveyance. The first sentence implies his entire journey was by stagecoach, yet somehow he disembarks from a train upon arrival in Dodge by stagecoach. This requires the attention of someone who can verify the facts of the event. (talk) 22:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

This is not a contradiction. In the early 1880's one had to take a stagecoach or ride a horse from Tombstone to Tucson where the nearest train connection was. So his trip could start on a stagecoach to Tucson, then take a train to Dodge City...which makes great sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:04, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Denver, Colorado[edit]

"In 1889, the two friends were involved in the famous Denver registration and election fraud scandal". Not looking to row with you, but this is a rather subjective statement, and assumes that the reader will know about this event. Unfortunately, I have never even heard of this event, and objectively, I would suggest that maybe the incident is only famous in certain limited circles which rather undermines the way it is mentioned in Wiki in this case. Might I suggest, that a short summary of the nature of the fraud and why it became a scandal needs to be added. (talk) 19:52, 9 November 2015 (UTC)