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Cleaning Up the "Modern Age" Subsection - March 2015
The "Modern Age" subsection is extremely lengthy and overly detailed. It is the longest subsection in the entire page. I implore someone to please take the time and edit it to make it concise. A thank you, from all of us, to whichever brave soul can do this task. JosephSpiral (talk) 09:21, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
The phrase "Finger didn't receive the same recognition..." leaves the impression that he was entitled to it. And Jerry Robinson's comment comparing Kane and Finger to Siegel and Shuster isn't quite accurate: Siegel and Shuster were partners in all things, business and production but Kane and Finger were not. Since Mr.Robinson was once president of the National Cartoonists Society, he must have known that in an art or comic book studio, two people may work on a given project but the boss is still the boss and if he or she only wants her name on her comic strip, that's the be all and end all; as long as they have their assistants sign work-for-hire agreements, copyrights are also not an issue. As far as Batman is concerned, it was Kane who had the deal with DC and Finger was never Kane's business partner. That's American Business 101. This is also the case with Wonder Woman Co-Creators William Marston and H.G.Peter but let's just stick with The Batman.
I realize this is not a forum but I say this as a stopgap: whether or not we "believe" Kane "should have" given Finger "credit" for his contributions, or he was "wise" not to, based on Finger's track record for how he managed his own career after he left Kane, it's irrelevant to the subject of the article: The Batman as a character, and the who, what, when and why of his creation; a statement like "Finger wasn't given the same recognition..." is too close to bias. It should either be removed or qualified by mentioning that Kane never made Finger a full partner nor was he given a share in the "business" of Batman. On a side note, Bill Finger is acknowledged whenever his stories are reprinted or the origins of Batman's creation are discussed in DC Comics literature. What he doesn't receive is part of the "Batman Created By..." notation for the above-mentioned reasons; not merely because of the size of anyone's ego, real or perceived.
Also, as it does now, the article shouldn't confuse inner studio "credit" with whatever policies DC or All American may have had as they are separate matters. At the time of Batman's creation, DC didn't have a "bullpen" of work for hire freelancers; they had agreements or "accounts" with independent cartoonists who submitted their work to National (DC Comics) to be published. According to Jerry Robinson in his 2003 (?)Comics Journal interview, there wasn't a fully formed Bullpen of freelancers until about late 41 or in 1942. And after the merger with All American in the mid to late 40s, DC was no longer willing to accept product from outside sources. (As related in Mark Evanier's Kirby: The King OF Comics vol. one.)
Finally, I repeat my suggestion that the Kane and Finger articles be locked, in addition to the Batman article. There's just too much misinformation out there, especially on some of these Bat-Fan blogs.MARK VENTURE (talk) 06:32, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
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I'm requesting for someone to make an edit to Batman's abilities. This is my favorite character, and I'd hate to see that the majority of his abilities are missing. He is very, very skilled in what he does and it needs to be updated. I will list his abilities here:
Genius Level Intellect, Peak Physical and Mental Conditioning, Master of 127 Martial Arts, Master in Interrogation, Master Acrobat, Master Escapologist, Master Strategist, Master Swordsman, Master Tactician, Master Marksman, Master of Archery, Use of High-Tech Equipment, Weapons, Armor, & Gadgets, Master of Stealth & Disguise, Advance Scientific and Technological Proficiency, Master Observation Skills, Access to Vast Wealth and Criminal Records, Trained Computer Hacker, and Photographic Memory
If this could get corrected I'd greatly appreciate it, thank you.