Talk:Battle of Agincourt

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Primary sources section (original_research?)[edit]

See Archive 1: Primary sources section (original_research?) for previous discussion.

Welsh numbers[edit]

An editor has entered a comment on Welsh numbers taken from Andy Chapman's PhD thesis refered above and placed it in the numbers section. Unfortunately, it confuses the argument on total numbers being made there and I've removed it. This really should sit in a section giving more detail on the make up of the English army but we currently don't have such a thing. Any thoughts on how to insert this referenced material, which also confronts a seemingly common myth that most of the archers at Agincourt were Welsh? Monstrelet (talk) 17:47, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Cannons and/or Arquebus Firearms at Agincourt[edit]

Hello all, I'm a newbie here, but am a lover of medieval history. Was it not the case that some cannon and/or arquebus firearms were present at the battle? If so, I note the Wikipedia page on the Battle of Agincourt makes no reference to them. Would very much appreciate anyone's thoughts. 2601:182:C200:1ECA:0:0:0:DA7B (talk) 19:54, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

There are at least two references to cannon at Agincourt. One is a set of accounts from Amiens saying the town's cannon was sent to the battle and one unfortunate archer in the Agincourt Roll is killed by a cannon ball. Hand firearms are unlkely at this early date and there seems no mention of them. To make reference to artillery, it would have to be proportionate, as they have no effect on the action and are more of a curiosityMonstrelet (talk) 07:39, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Appreciated. I favor mentioning this "curiosity". If the reason for its exclusion is that the cannon(s) were a curiosity and had no effect, then why does Wikipedia mention that the first use of poison gas in World War I was by the French (ethyl bromoacetate). The Wiki page states the amount of gas produced was so small from the gas grenades that the Germans did not even detect their use. Why mention that? Maybe because it's...fascinating. First use of poison gas! Equally fascinating: a cannon was use at Agincourt! At least one guy died from it. But virtually no one knows of it because you guys won't allow it on your Agincourt page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:182:C200:D30B:2523:9DE7:BBB:B0C3 (talk) 01:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

G or Z?[edit]

"English speakers found it easier to pronounce "Agincourt" with a "g" instead of the original "z" "

I do wonder if this is true. No reference is given. Another explanation is just as easily that factually the letters G, Z and Y are very easily confused in the writing of the period. Cassandra.