Talk:Battle of Agincourt

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Primary sources section (original_research?)[edit]

See Archive 1: Primary sources section (original_research?) for previous discussion.

Citation drive[edit]

AustralianRupert has done a sterling job working through the article to point out where he thinks citations are needed to achieve B class status - the least we should aim for before next year's anniversay IMO. AR is a very experienced editor who knows the assessment rules but he is no medievalist. So it is down to those who know the topic to fill the gaps. A quick read through today enabled me to pick off a few citations. Most, if not all, others should be accessible from major sources already used in the article (Curry and Barker primarily, I think. If anyone has the time to put in just a few from either source, it will help push the task along. Monstrelet (talk) 11:00, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Jeannet de Poix ou de Tyrel[edit]

The above has been placed in the Notable Casualties section and removed. It is alleged he was Admiral of France and killed at Agincourt. In fact he was not Admiral of France until 1418, so didn't die at the battle. His brother (?) Jean V Tyrel de Poix did die at the battle but, although apparently a royal councellor, doesn't seem worth adding to the list. The admiral of France killed at Agincourt would seem to be Clignet de Brabant, though Curry opens the possibility it was the Sire de Dampierre (unnamed). Philippe d'Auxy, Sire de Dampierre was killed at Agincourt. French wikipedia lists the Amiral de France in 1415 as the Jaques de Chatillon, Sire de Dampierre, but with the wrong name wikilinked. Jaques de Chatillon was killed at Agincourt. Anyone able to resolve this? Monstrelet (talk) 09:55, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Welsh numbers[edit]

An editor has entered a comment on Welsh numbers taken from Andy Chapman's PhD thesis refered above and placed it in the numbers section. Unfortunately, it confuses the argument on total numbers being made there and I've removed it. This really should sit in a section giving more detail on the make up of the English army but we currently don't have such a thing. Any thoughts on how to insert this referenced material, which also confronts a seemingly common myth that most of the archers at Agincourt were Welsh? Monstrelet (talk) 17:47, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Cannons and/or Arquebus Firearms at Agincourt[edit]

Hello all, I'm a newbie here, but am a lover of medieval history. Was it not the case that some cannon and/or arquebus firearms were present at the battle? If so, I note the Wikipedia page on the Battle of Agincourt makes no reference to them. Would very much appreciate anyone's thoughts. 2601:182:C200:1ECA:0:0:0:DA7B (talk) 19:54, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

There are at least two references to cannon at Agincourt. One is a set of accounts from Amiens saying the town's cannon was sent to the battle and one unfortunate archer in the Agincourt Roll is killed by a cannon ball. Hand firearms are unlkely at this early date and there seems no mention of them. To make reference to artillery, it would have to be proportionate, as they have no effect on the action and are more of a curiosityMonstrelet (talk) 07:39, 31 August 2015 (UTC)