Talk:Beavis and Butt-Head/Archive 3
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Arthur (kid's TV) parody
There is an episode of the Arthur TV series that parodies B&B, in the form of a comic book called Peabrain and Nuthead. Should this be added to the References in pop culture section? The episode is called "Buster and the Daredevils". Here's a link: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/ecdc/20302.htm
66.142.53.175 23:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Butt-head's character origin
The "Iron-butt" story is well-known but never I've heard the story about this supposed MIT professor. Are these contradicting stories or is it the same guy? -- Jombage 08:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Self-contradictory tag
Someone put the tag up but didn't explain why on the talk page... any help here? --Goldrushcavi 17:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Look up -- Jombage 11:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Deleted the info as it's fancruft anyway. --Goldrushcavi 22:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Risque Comment
In the other appearances section it says that a risque comment about starfires skin pigment. What was this comment if you tell me or link it that would be great — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.141.104.2 (talk) 16:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
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Name of Music Video?
I remember a music video that was on the show but was removed after the fire nonsense. The beginning had a small fire in the corner, and lots of crazy stuff including the lead singer-lady on top of a moving bus. Could someone please tell me the name of this song or the name of the band? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.231.86 (talk) 03:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I just found the video, it is by the Plasmatics and is called "Damned." Lots of fire and explosions, I can see why it was taken off the air. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.231.86 (talk) 15:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
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Idea: Get the Beavis and Butthead comics and pay attention to the Letters to the Editor
Hey, guys, you should get the Beavis and Butthead comics (try eBay) AND then add info about the characters in the comics. Also check the letters to the editor for developmental information - e.g. what homages are made, and why. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Premature FAC nom withdrawn
- Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Beavis and Butt-head/archive1 SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Category:Marvel Comics characters
Which other characters appeared in the comics? I labeled Beavis and Butthead but I do not know which other characters appeared in the comics. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Live action movie rumors
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2008/05/15/beavis_and_butthead_to_make_a_big_screen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakunus (talk • contribs) 10:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Name of music video
I need help with finding the name of the video and some of the artists are wearing clown makeup, the music has hard heavy metal with smooth chorus. I know it is not ICP. I think part of the chorus has the word "slander" in it. Kingsofa 01:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
itll be something by KISS i think itll be I love it loud Zakkman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.17.159.25 (talk) 18:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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GWAR & Bananarama
The article mentions that B&B claimed that if GWAR and Bananarama had kids, they'd be the coolest ever. I'm pretty sure the duo said this in regards to GWAR and L7, having kids...although they could have said this about both Bananarama and L7. Anyone able to verify/refute? Ynot4tony2 (talk) 18:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters
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Tagged for being too long
I just saw the following tag on this article:
This article may be too long to comfortably read and navigate. Please consider splitting content into sub-articles and using this article for a summary of the key points of the subject.
Wow! This could've actually been avoided if it weren't for all the mergers of related articles by anti-fictionists! ----DanTD (talk) 01:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
why do secondary characters have their own articles?
None of the articles on the secondary characters cite secondary sources, they just use information from the episodes. As I recall that is not enough to warrant an article on Wikipedia. I'm going ahead and redirecting them to this article. Bobisbob2 (talk) 22:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
DVD Set
When will the entire series be released on DVD? I know there is a set out there that includes 3 volumes, the movie, and 2 bobble heads, but not the entire series. Jeanlovecomputers (talk) 02:29, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Credits: Cast and Crew
How about adding a section about the many people who created, developed and produced this great show?--Don (talk) 20:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Original research
There's a lot of analysis here that could very well be original research.--HisSpaceResearch 11:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Although this show was popular at one time, it is now "low important." and should be reduced to what is necessary. I dont think it should require such a long article on an inconsequential subject. This should be reduced dramatically. Wyatt 22:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
No information should ever be removed for age sake. That's like puting a limit on history classes and telling kids they can't learn about the Romans because "they are no longer popular at the time". That's just lazy being lazy. That being said, there is tons of ridiculous info in this article that never should have been there in the 1st place. see: 'Featured music videos' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.220.20 (talk) 16:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Kurt Cobain Beavis's Dad
i suggest we remove this, Butt-head said that it was the Janitor was Beavis's dad. i will be changing this. 81.96.254.143 (talk) 20:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Coach Buzzcut information incorrect.
Coach Buzzcut is listed as being a Gulf War vet. However, in one episode he motivates the boys to work out by giving them a speech. "I remember those days on the Ho Chi Minh Trail with the Mighty Big Red One. Grace, my trusty M16 by my side. In the jungle, boys, no one was innocent. You got them before they got you. I want to tell you my squad followed them flame-throwing tanks into those hostile villages. Man, it was beautiful! Fire everywhere!" I think the description should be changed to reflect that he is a Viet Nam veteran.
Wendigo1 (talk) 07:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Burger World Reference
Some think that Burger World is a tribute to Texas-based Whataburger. The fact that this is not mentioned makes the article incomplete.
I think it's a trtibute to McDonalds because the Burger World Logo looks like the McDonalds "M" turned upside-down. 217.233.82.226 00:46, 25 August 2007 (UTN
No, It's Whataburger; trust me. And "Highland" is after Highland Park, a north Dallas suburb.
-It's probably a composite of both. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.192.213.3 (talk) 21:17, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Do we really need the college thesis on the Video Critique section?
...really? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.192.213.3 (talk) 21:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- removed section citing original research —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.192.213.3 (talk) 22:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Encouraging dangerous things
Isn't there also another banned episode where they put a firecracker up Stewart's cat's butt? And some kid imitated that and killed a cat? So they never showed that episode again? Worth mentioning I think. (Assuming that wherever I read that wasn't lying.) 98.92.214.246 (talk) 03:37, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Daria
Daria is "vaguely alt-rockerish"? What does that even mean? Does "vaguely" really add anything to that sentence? Isn't it kinda pov? Isn't vagueness in the eye of the beholder? 98.92.214.246 (talk) 03:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Isn't "alt-rockerish" as well? Badger Drink (talk) 04:36, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Will someone please adopt the Beavis and Butt-head wiki
- There are currently no administrators at the Beavis and Butthead wiki. http://beavisandbutthead.wikia.com/wiki/Beavis_and_Butt-Head_Wiki Will a fan please go to Adoption request and ask to adopt it? Someone needs to erase the spam and the scams there. Information some don't want in the Wikipedia article here, would be perfect there, you able to make articles for every episode, character, and anything else you can think of. Dream Focus 16:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Where did the list of music videos used in Beavis and Butthead go?
That was a really useful section, where is it now? 92.237.14.190 (talk) 13:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ask the anti-fiction deletionists. ----DanTD (talk) 21:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- Lol, anti-fictionists editing a fiction article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.43.119 (talk) 03:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Steven Cohmer voicing the duo
Steven Cohmer is going to voice Bevis and Butthead in 2010! This info is true because he said so on Twitter. Trust his words guys. 68.111.101.240 (talk) 21:59, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
That's probably the dumbest thing anyone has ever suggested. Congratulations!
SpongeBob Squarepants Movie
B&B are appearing as fish at the end of the movie: when SpongeBob frees Bikini Bottom through the sound of Rock Music they are shown headbangig! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.56.6.74 (talk • contribs)
Do you know any sources that also says this, 84? If not, then it's original research that shouldn't be added to the Beavis and Butt-head article. --Martyleehi (talk) 00:07, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Running time issue
Could someone explain this to me?
Running time 15 min (without music videos) 5–11 (with music videos) 12–21 min (specials)
Shouldn't the 5-11 minutes be added to the 15 minutes mentioned above? The running time is 15 minutes "without" the music videos? Music videos added to the program would equal an extra 5-11 minutes. Is it suppose to signify how long the music video bits usually are? If that's the case, the word "with" should be removed, as it's currently giving the impression that it's not an addition to the time listed above.
The first episode of the revival series was 20 minutes total. Just an FYI. The show now features more than music videos, so I guess we're going to have to update the information to reflect that too. Hope someone can figure out the best way to summarize this. I'm going to try and correct the first issue(s) I mentioned previously. 76.98.223.32 (talk) 03:45, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Revival Information
So far the revival information on this page seems to speak only of the critiques we will see in the new series. These critiques include (what sounds like) every pop music video, youtube video's, jersey shore, movies, UFC matches, and I would have to assume, various other pop culture phenonmenon. This is fine, as B&B used to critique videos... but that's where the "fine" ends. They critiqued videos and videos alone. With all these new critiques they plan to have, one has to wonder whether there will even be an actual storyline within each beavis and butthead episode (remember, in the original, the music video critiues came second to the plot lines of the episodes which were used to intersperse them). If the new B&B is nothing but critiques and offers nothing more than another way for MTV to pimp their most successfull shows and artists, it seems like this series will be doomed to fail. The music video critiques were always great, but they came as a corrallary to the actual episodes themselves. Should those episodes cease to exist, or be given less priority than the critiques, which s o far seem constructed to pimp out MTV's crappy shows even more"... I'm not going to watch. Critiques are fun, but they should be intersperesed around the episodes as non-sequitors which have nothing to do with the actual episode plot. Music videos themselves, nor their critiques ever were joined/linked with the actual episode plots either.... plealse, I hope they have kept it that way.. Lest B&B will fail.
Anyone have any news? Anyone else concerned with the sheer number of things they will critique and how it will affect the actual plot lines, or worse, shorten/erradicate them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.185.162 (talk) 19:01, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- Shouldn't the revival have its own article? It's a new series with a slightly different title "Mike Judge's Beavis and Butt-head", and not merely a new season of the old series. Milchama (talk) 02:44, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- I would tend to agree that the new show should have its own page at Mike Judge's Beavis and Butt-head. - Archduk3 (talk) 05:16, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Dislike of English bands
Suggest removing the comment that Beavis and Butthead dislike many English bands. If this is meant to be a statement of fact, it's misleading and / or not worthy of noting: they dislike many bands, some of whom are English (some English bands are also their faves, e.g. Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden). If the comment is meant to be a statement of opinion, then obviously it doesn't belong in the article at all.
They probably [i]would[/i] dislike a band from any other country, but they're frequently too ignorant to know if one is.122.57.92.216 (talk) 03:14, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- Agree with the above. "This sucks. Change it." --Archstanton (talk) 05:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Ok now people...
There is a huge division across B&B Wikipedia pages; half of them say that his name is Butt-Head, others say Butt-head. I've recently been changing them to the latter, but after looking at the back of my "The Mike Judge Collection" case, it appears it's meant to be Butt-Head. Unless we need to create a whole WikiProject over this, which is going a bit far, we should decide now what it's supposed to be. ≈ The Haunted Angel 21:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Head is his last name so it should be capitalized. He has a cousin named Richard Head.
There is already a discussion about this above... --David7581 (talk) 04:57, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Highland - rural desert town, or rich suburb?
In the 2011 episodes, Highland seems to be more affluent and suburban, but it appeared to be a run-down small town surrounded by desert in the 1990's episodes. Anyone else notice this?
69.249.144.99 (talk) 13:52, 30 December 2011 (UTC)Phil
- It's a Texas suburb, but I don't think it's necessarily rich. ----DanTD (talk) 16:00, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Breaking the Law
- the fact that they sang the song itself numerous times throughout the series
Really that numerous? In which episodes, for example? I'm ashamed of my poor knowledge of B&BH. Anothername 19:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't add that sentence but I think most (or all) of the occurrences were in really early episodes, like when they used a chainsaw to decapitate a grasshopper and took off the top of Butt-Head's finger. That's all I can remember off the top of my head but I think there were more. --TM 19:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
They also sang it many times during "Washing The Dog." The title itself is a reference to the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.205.7 (talk • contribs)
They also sang it two times during "Home Improvement" while painting Anderson's house. RHorber (talk) 15:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Has Beavis and Butthead Ended?
The infobox says it has but I see no source cited, and have not seen any news about it. Anthony Guidetti (talk) 19:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Officially, not yet. But it remains on the bubble as to whether or not it will be. Christengo--76.27.195.6 (talk) 00:07, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
"Butt-Head" or "Butt-head"
I've always assumed that you capitalized the H, but it varies dramatically in the article itself. Should it, or should it not? SpellingD 15:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- I believe "Butt-head" was agreed upon sometime last year. --Goldrushcavi 23:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- It is spelled "Butt-Head" on the DVD, as well as MTV.com http://www.mtv.com/onair/beavisandbutthead/ and IMBd http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105950/ In addition, in the English language hyphenated names are always capitalized. Therefore, the correct spelling is "Butt-Head." 69.248.171.179 03:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)cavedude
Head is his last name so it should be capitalized. He has a cousin named Richard Head.
- That was a throw-away joke based on the insult word "dickhead". Should not be taken as canon. StuSutcliffe 22:54, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with cavedude's argument since these are probably sourced from the creators, especially the DVD and MTV.com. Additionally, anyone with a hyphenated last name can tell you that the first letter after the hyphen is capitalized. In the movie, he tells the elderly lady they see many times that his last name is "Head" --David7581 (talk) 02:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with cavedude too. I see no evidence here that "Butt-head" was "agreed upon sometime [in 2006]" and don't really see why we have to abide by some invisible decision that was supposedly reached five years ago anyway. I suggest it gets changed back to "Butt-Head". --Archstanton (talk) 05:16, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Have now changed the capitalization and invited discussion on the talk page. Had considered changing the page title too but that's a major change and needs discussing beforehand. --Archstanton (talk) 07:23, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Apparently some users don't read talk pages and take it upon themselves to change what was agreed upon --David7581 (talk) 05:07, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- In that case, shouldn't we adapt everything on the page we can to the writing "Butt-Head"? I also thought, because of the article's title, it should be written "Butt-head", and the info box on the right also shows it that way ... I offer myself to adapt these things. RHorber (talk) 11:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- It should be “Butt-Head.” Both parts of hyphenated names are capitalized, e.g. “Spider-Man.” Not only is the other way wrong, but it looks bad. 206.116.72.47 (talk) 05:16, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- FYI, Spiderman is 1 word, not 2 hyphenated words. DP76764 (Talk) 05:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
the revival section
the revival section is confusing. it seems to be written both before and after the revival aired. it uses words like "will" and "that'll" but it also has past tense words like "has". The sentence "Comedy Central announced that they would be airing the show's "debut" as part of their animation block over Christmas (despite being shown before in 2005/2006)." is especially confusing as it is speaking about a past Christmas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.174.81 (talk) 19:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
The "Second cancellation" section
Sorry, but this part of the article is so crummy - there's little evidence and the evidence that has been given isn't official at all (I personally think it looks like a hoax). I think it should be removed. --<-·'¯'·.Ð駧í©átéÐ ©ó®þ§é.·'¯'·-> (talk) 13:32, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Agree: Primary sources and no notability of those claims. Removing shortly! DP76764 (Talk) 16:31, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Rare fire episode
I found this on youtube, is it not the original episode, uncensored? If it is, it really doesn't seem that rare, and once someone puts the original one on it(if this isn't it), anyone could have the episode. 72.74.136.124 (talk) 05:45, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrfuS171jYY
Missing photo?
Didn't this article originally have a photo from the drug smuggling episode? It was a small, grainy screengrab of B&B about to swallow the condoms full of drugs. Did the thought police bonk that? --RThompson82 (talk) 02:43, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
What about the Japanese Beavis and Butt-head Mintia Wild and Cool Commercial?
Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).Shouldn't the Beavis and Butt-head Mintia Commercial be references under 'Other Appearances?' It was officially made with Mike Judge involved
Here's proof: Final Product: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWbkxtifwM Animation without music(possibly animation before given to company, I dunno): http://vimeo.com/75039847
It's clearly Mike Judge's voice acting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgaqua2244 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
In popular culture
Yes, there are numerous instances in various TV shows where B&B is alluded to or "imitated". Generally, such things are trivial; listing them does not tell us anything substantial about B&B (the topic of this article). Rather, WP:IPC prefers sourced discussion of the subject's impact on popular culture over a list of instances where the topic pops up in primary sources.
By way of comparison, there are exactly 6,732,503 movies, TV shows, plays, operas, knock-knock jokes, limericks, disembodied heads in the 31st century, novels, brands of canned sardines, sculptures, famous speeches, tapestries, songs, rock albums, etc. that refer to Richard Nixon. They are not listed in Richard Nixon.
Chevy Chase's long-running series of pratfalls mocking Gerald Ford on SNL, OTOH, are discussed in Gerald Ford. Why the different treatment? Independent reliable sources discussing Ford discuss the skits (the N Y Times quotes Ford blaming his failed re-election bid -- in part -- on the skits).
For further discussion, please see WP:IPC. - SummerPhD, v2.0 23:39, 1 June 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tefkasp (talk • contribs)
Their house
I didn't notice it in the article, but do they own their own house? I remember Beavis talking about how in his house they keep jars of feces in the basement, so I'm not sure. How two 14 year olds own their own house, albeit disheveled, notwithstanding, this might be something which belongs in the article. Stewart lives with his parents, are B&B emancipated minors? Valley2city 20:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- References are made in the show to their mothers being "sluts," although the mothers are never actually seen. Nevertheless, the boys seem to know who their mothers are. The boys do not know who their fathers are, however, although the U. S. government does. Their fathers are a couple of Mötley Crüe roadies. In the film, the two boys meet their fathers, but do not realise it. One of the fathers specifically references two "sluts" in Highland, the town where Beavis and Butt-head live. (Although this man claims to have "scored" with both "sluts," and claims his companion "scored" with neither of them, the fact that the U. S. government knows each man to be a father of one of the two boys indicates that he is lying, and that his companion actually did "score" with the other "slut." The fact that the companion looks and sounds similar to Beavis makes it clear to the viewer that he is, in fact, Beavis's father while the first man is Butt-head's father.) The fact that these men are bragging about having "scored" with two "sluts" in Highland fifteen years prior implies that this was, in fact, the only time these two men had ever "scored" in their lives, for, had they also "scored" at some other point in their lives, these men would surely have bragged about multiple sexual encounters, rather than just the one sexual encounter. Since this was the only time these two men had ever "scored," and since they are, according to the government, Beavis's and Butt-head's fathers, we must conclude incontrovertibly that the two "sluts" they refer to indeed are Beavis's and Butt-head's mothers. We must conclude that not only do Beavis and Butt-head have two separate fathers, they likely have two separate mothers (especially since they are never referred to as brothers, and since it is confirmed that there were two, not one, "sluts" in Highland fifteen years earlier). The two "sluts" likely know one another, and likely gave birth in the same month as one another. But, to reiterate, we never see either of them. I do not infer from this that either Beavis or Butt-head is emancipated. Rather, I infer that, while one or both of the mothers own the house, they neglect their sons, and are either mostly or entirely apathetic about the antics of their sons, and perhaps even about the existence of their sons. Whichever mother owns the house (if not both) also seems to care little about its upkeep, again implying a certain apathy or nihilism. Further, since neither Beavis nor Butt-head are highly motivated, it seems unlikely that they would have bothered to get jobs at Burger World had their mothers been providing them with much in way of money, thus corroborating the perspective that they are mainly or entirely absentee mothers. The notion that the two mothers are still legal guardians but do not care seems far more likely to me than the notion that either boy obtained emancipation or came to own the house. (As an aside, I think it is implied that Beavis's and Butt-head's general stupidity and nihilism are traits inherited from their parents.) Best, allixpeeke (talk) 02:20, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Stop !
Could you please stop?What do you mean this article is "too big"?There are a lot of people that like to read.Isn't Wikipedia's goal to make all human knowledge availible to everybody at no cost?Saying that an article is too long it's just like saying a book is too good.I know that quantity isn't quality,but this page is long and good.There was a user that spend his time in the own sake of Wikipedia and it's users.Why should anybody say something informative is too long?There are a lot of other articles that are long but nobody says they're too long.So,please,stop argueing about this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.117.93.84 (talk) 08:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, the more the merrier (content-wise).
- If you are arguing against shortening the article for the sake of shortening it, then I, as an inclusionist, will agree. The focus should be on quality, not brevity, and while the two sometimes overlap, sometimes they do not. We should aim to ensure that no knowledge is lost. Conservata veritate!
But, if you are arguing against splitting sections into subpages when said sections get so large that they make this page difficult to load of difficult to navigate, then I would have to disagree. Since no knowledge is lost as a result of splitting large sections into subpages when appropriate, I have no objection to said splitting.
Sincerely,
allixpeeke (talk) 02:34, 12 June 2015 (UTC)- @Allixpeeke: Please note that you have replied to a comment that was made in 2009 (so it may now have little relevance to the current state of this article — and you are unlikely to receive a reply from the original commenter). General Ization Talk 02:39, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- I am well aware. All the same, thanks. allixpeeke (talk) 02:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Allixpeeke: Please note that you have replied to a comment that was made in 2009 (so it may now have little relevance to the current state of this article — and you are unlikely to receive a reply from the original commenter). General Ization Talk 02:39, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- If you are arguing against shortening the article for the sake of shortening it, then I, as an inclusionist, will agree. The focus should be on quality, not brevity, and while the two sometimes overlap, sometimes they do not. We should aim to ensure that no knowledge is lost. Conservata veritate!
- Exactly. There is nothing wrong with some nice verbosity.
death rock?
Why do the alternate t-shirts worn by Beavis and Butthead read "death rock"? Is this a mistake on Judge's part? Confusing death rock and death metal? Death rock is akin to Goth and the characters don't seem to care for Goth. But they do seem to like death metal. The two genres sound and look nothing alike. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.180.53.244 (talk) 02:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
They probly did that on purpose becuz of copyright issues & this time they had to get permission to have AC/DC + Metallica on their shirts, Hopefully this wont be sign that a bunch of MTV series like jersey shore and the real world will be on in the couch scene. ChesterTheWorm (talk) 21:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC) ChesterTheWWorm
- (1) You forgot to mention that the other wears a shirt with the word "Skull." Only Beavis wears a shirt that says "Death Rock."
(2) I concur with ChesterTheWorm that it is likely a trademark and/or licensing issue. I first noticed this a little over a decade ago when I bought the 1993 album The Beavis and Butt-head Experience. (Although Butt-head wears an MTV shirt on the front cover, he wears his "Skull" shirt on the back cover. Their "Death Rock" and "Skull" shirts can be seen in other media, too.)
(3) Death rock does not necessarily imply gothic rock. According to the Wikipedia article on death rock, the term was first used in the 1950s, long before the emergence of gothic rock. (That said, the claim lacks a citation, and thus should be taken with a grain of salt.) The article lists "Endless Sleep" by Jody Reynolds and "Last Kiss" as performed by J. Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers as examples of death rock—both of which are obviously well outside of the genre of gothic rock.
(4) The death rock article says that it is a "thematically related genre of rock and roll" with "songs about dead teenagers" noted for its "morbid yet romantic view of death." I infer from this that what makes death rock "death rock" has absolutely nothing to do with its sound, and everything to do with its lyrical content. It would seem that, as long as a song falls into the category of "rock" (or one of its many subgenres), and as long as it focuses on death-related themes, it is thus an example of "death rock." As for death metal, it is a subgenre of black metal that focuses its lyrics on, again, death-related themes. And since black metal is itself a subgenre of rock, perhaps it would be appropriate to say that death metal is a subgenre of death rock, no? Thus, I see no reason to assume that any mistake has been made on the part of Judge.
(5) Even if "death rock" specifically meant gothic rock, that's not to say that Beavis would necessarily know that he's wearing a shirt promoting gothic rock. He could very easily believe it's simply a shirt that suggests the combination of two things he regards as cool, viz., death and rock. Thus, even if "death rock" specifically does mean gothic rock, I still see no reason to assume that any mistake has been made on the part of Judge.
First Episode
The series originated from Frog Baseball
Season 0 Eisode 1 - Peace, Love & Understanding
Season 0 Eisode 2 - Frog Baseball
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.242.216.246 (talk) 15:37, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
- (1) It's "Peace, Love and Understanding," not "Peace, Love & Understanding."
(2) "Peace, Love and Understanding" was the second episode; "Frog Baseball" was the first.
Sincerely,
allixpeeke (talk) 03:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Van Driessen and Mr. Mackey from South Park
I'm not sure, if I understand Van Driessen right, but he says mkey like Mr. Mackey from South Park, doesn't he? If it's that way, I think it should be mentioned (maybe on both articles). What do you think? RHorber (talk) 11:04, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- Only if a source can be cited which states there is some sort of connection. Famartin (talk) 17:54, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- What I find troubling isn't so much that some possible connection between David Van Driessen and Mr. Mackey is omitted.
Rather, what I find troubling is that David Van Driessen is not described anywhere on either this article or the list of minor characters in Beavis and Butt-head article.
In fact, he is not even mentioned in this article. (He is at least mentioned in the list of minor characters in Beavis and Butt-head article, although never described personally.)
Shouldn't some basic description of David Van Driessen be mentioned on at least one of these two articles?
Sincerely yours,
allixpeeke (talk) 03:43, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- What I find troubling isn't so much that some possible connection between David Van Driessen and Mr. Mackey is omitted.
Theme Song
Who did the theme song, and can this information be added to the article? Thanks. allixpeeke 07:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Or, really, any information about the theme song at all? Who did it, how long is it in its full length, et cetera. allixpeeke 19:47, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- From what I've heard and read, it is my assumption that Mike Judge himself performs the theme song. --David7581 (talk) 04:55, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- Does the song have a title? allixpeeke (talk) 03:48, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Characters
It appears that on 4 April 2015, Phil A. Fry edited this article, thereby removing from this article descriptions of Tom Anderson, Daria Morgendorffer, and Stewart Stevenson, and removing from this article descriptions and all mention of David Van Driessen, Principal McVicker, Coach Buzzcut, and Todd Ianuzzi. Thus, since April, there has been no basic description of these characters in either this article or the list of minor characters in Beavis and Butt-head article.
This is rather odd. It means that if I want a description of Mrs. Dickie, that's something I can find on Wikipedia. But, if I want a description are a more-notable character, like David Van Driessen or Principal McVicker, I have to go to some other website entirely.
I therefore submit that we should either (A) add a ==Characters== section to this article in order to provide a description of these characters, (B) create a list of major characters in Beavis and Butt-head article, or (C) add descriptions of these characters to the list of minor characters in Beavis and Butt-head article and rename it list of characters in Beavis and Butt-head.
Yours truly,
allixpeeke (talk) 04:25, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
P.S. Funnily enough, list of characters in Beavis and Butt-head currently redirects to this article, even though this article contains no list of Beavis and Butt-head characters.
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The result of the move request was: moved. BarrelProof, Randy Kryn, Darkday: if you could go through all the sub-articles and make sure they are all moved to the new capitalisation, that would be great. List any that require an admin to move at WP:RM/TR or on my talk page. Thanks. Jenks24 (talk) 10:48, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Beavis and Butt-head → Beavis and Butt-Head – Per MOS:CT and the above prior comment of 30 October 2015 on the article's Talk page, prior discussion at Talk:Beavis and Butt-head/Archive 3#"Butt-Head" or "Butt-head", and sources such as the show's website (which says "Beavis and Butt-Head, America's favorite culture critics, ..."), IMDB, Los Angeles Times, and Rolling Stone. Also see Talk:Beavis and Butt-head/Archive 1#Move content to "Beavis and Butt-Head"? —BarrelProof (talk) 22:18, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support, per common name and official name, Butt-Head seems to be the series' title (hehheh, I typed "Butt"). Randy Kryn 16:10, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
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This whole thing needs a good rewrite
I agree completely, even the basic information is wrong, the seasons are mislabeled for example, we are on season 9, not 8. http://www.mtv.com/shows/beavis_and_butthead/episode.jhtml?episodeID=186395 901 source MTV. I tried fixing it but this is Wikipedia so of course it got changed back near instantly to the incorrect format. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.32.128.232 (talk) 21:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
It is just a mess. Seriously. It sounds like the result of a savage edit-war between a hater and a lover, this being the final compromise. It just swings wildly between information and review and how they are terrible people but they are also good, though. Lordz (talk) 23:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
And at the bottom of this page it says: "This page was last modified on 22 October 2011 at 01:02." but that date and time are still in the future unless the clock is somewhere out in the Atlantic ocean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzzhuh (talk • contribs) 02:49, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- User Zzzhuu i suggest you read the page UTC. Stub Mandrel (talk) 18:52, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
This article still needs a complete rewrite. It is full of trivial information that belongs on a fan site and not in an encyclopedia article. Doesn't need a blow-by-blow detailed listing of videos that they like or dislike.Smitse (talk) 22:48, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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Deletion of music video critiques
Why is there this effort to remove the entire chapter on critiques of music videos? These were a key feature of the show. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:31, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps because they are copy/pasted from external websites, violating author copyrights. Materialscientist (talk) 03:33, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
I have reverted the addition as an unsourced essay. Additionally Materialscientist seems to feel there is a copyright violation. In both cases, you will need to discuss the issue before restoring the section. - SummerPhDv2.0 22:32, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Wouldn't it have been better to just delete the lifted material, instead of the entire section? There was still quite a bit of sourced material in the old section. The article as it stands barely mentions music videos or the critiques. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C41D:6AE0:10C8:6A91:120F:E113 (talk) 18:23, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
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