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Bellevue's NOT a suburb of Seattle[edit]

Truthfully, Bellevue is actually, the last time I checked, the FOURTH largest city in the state at this current time. As a resident of Bellevue, I'm trying not to be biased, but I seriously doubt that Bellevue can be considered a suburb of Seattle. Besides, you have to cross Mercer Island in order to get to Bellevue, which separates Seattle and Bellevue out in to two cities anyways. I don't know, feel free to give your opinion on this.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Xela267 (talkcontribs)

This has already been covered in the section directly below this and here. As long as Bellevue is a smaller city than Seattle it will continue to meet the requirements of a suburb. --Bobblehead 06:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, Seattle and Bellevue are directly connected. There are two bridges between Seattle and Bellevue. The I-90 floating bridge goes from Bellevue, near the Factoria neighborhood, across the lake to Mercer Island, then across the lake again to Seattle, in the First Hill and Near-Soto areas. The 520 floating bridge is a direct connection between Seattle and Bellevue, going from Bellevue's Medina area neighborhoods to Seattle's U-District and the arboretum area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.89.184.155 (talk) 21:04, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Is Bellevue a suburb of Seattle?[edit]

HELLO, I found an article that cites Bellevue as a "boomburb". http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003476791_danny14.html IF SOMEONE WOULD PLEASE ADD THIS TO THE CITATIONS, IT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. 128.180.196.229 20:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

HA! This discussion was mentioned in the paper! ^_^ However this article reflects Wikipedia, more than the other way around. If you can get a hold of some of his sources then you should reference them, but it seems illogical to cite his article when it wasn't used to make this article. (Could someone please respond to my point at the bottom of this section?) --Kraftlos 23:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

It was listed as a suburb on the Seattle page, then changed to city, then changed back. It is one or the other. I think this might be worth some discussion on the talk pages of both the Seattle and the Bellevue entries. I am curious why one would think Bellevue is a suburb of Seattle. It is listed on wiki as being the 5th largest city in WA. Even on the Bellevue page there is not a single mention of it being a suburb of Seattle. Perhaps that should be added in if it is listed on the Seattle page as such. Would like to get opinions and as a newbie would be interested in learning about how we decide what the final verdict is. Based on number of folks with the same opinion? By the way, I have cross posted this with the Seattle page as well. Thanks ImpulsivePuppy 02:10, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Properly I'd call Bellevue an edge city (see book of the same title by Joel Garreau), which is a city that started out as a suburb (which Bellevue undeniably did) but became into a city of its own, which Bellevue is definitely doing. In fact Bellevue is listed as an edge city of Seattle on the edge city Wikipedia article. Jerry Kindall 00:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I am curious why you think because Bellevue has over 100,000 people and is the 5th largest city in Washington it isn't a suburb of Seattle? Check out these suburbs of Detroit:
Warren, population 134,056, 3rd largest city in Michigan
Sterling Heights, population 129,699, 4th largest
Dearborn, population 98,153, 8th largest
Livonia, population 96,942 9th largest
These are hardly ever not considered suburbs of Detroit. Even Warren and Sterling Heights, both larger than Bellevue, and both ranking higher in their home state than Bellevue, are considered suburbs of Detroit. PhizzySimpleMichigan.svg 16:15, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Added a link to both edge city and boomburb in the opening paragraph. Jerry Kindall

Apropos of nothing, but somewhat related to the "is it a suburb" question, I was just reading the Wikipedia article on my hometown, Columbus, Ohio. Check out the photo of its skyline (scroll down to Geography), which is eerily similar to the one in this article of Bellevue's skyline... it won't take too many more buildings to make Bellevue's look like that, really. Jerry Kindall 06:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Great city you guys have! If I ever make enough money, Bellevue is where I wanna be!

Bellevue really is not the city with all the rich people. The really wealthy live mostly in Medina, Yarrow Point, Clyde Hill, and Hunts Point) In fact, Bellevue itself is a very diverse city ranging from nice hilltop or lakeside homes to low to middle income housing in the east side of the city. Namely, in the Crossroads area it is largely lower income apartments. --Kraftlos 05:25, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Changed back to "city", it really isn't a suburb in any sense anymore. 128.180.196.229 04:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE it to 'SUBURB'. Thank you. 128.180.196.229 11:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Look what I've changed it to now. I think it is a good compromise. Please post here before you change thank you. 128.180.196.229 11:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


Webster Definition Suburb 1 a : an outlying part of a city or town b : a smaller community adjacent to or within commuting distance of a city c plural : the residential area on the outskirts of a city or large town 2 plural : the near vicinity : Environs


Dictionary.com Suburb 1. a district lying immediately outside a city or town, esp. a smaller residential community. 2. the suburbs, the area composed of such districts. 3. an outlying part.

AskOxford.com suburb noun - an outlying residential district of a city.

American Heritage Dictionary 1. A usually residential area or community outlying a city. 2. suburbs The usually residential region around a major city; the environs.


Just because something is suburb doesn't mean that it can't be a city or can't have any serious commercial activity. A suburb is simply a community outside the main city. Sub (below, under) + urb (city).

It is true that Bellevue and other smaller communities existed on the east side in the first half of the 20th century, however when Bellevue incorporated in 1953, it was a direct result of population growth (and the creation of I-90). The Lake Hills community, one of the first GI Bill suburbs is often referenced when documentaries discuss suburbs or the GI-Bill.

Whether it has urbanized or not doesn't change the fact that Bellevue is a suburb of Seattle. A suburb will only cease to be a suburb when it has grown larger than it's parent city.

I'd also like to know if you people who are militantly defending this Edgecity or Boomburg idea actually took the time to look at a dictionary before you started this? And if you did, I would like to understand your reasoning on this; because by all these definitions,Bellevue is a suburb. --Kraftlos 05:25, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't say anyone is militantly defending the use of edgecity or boomburb. It was more a consensus agreement reflecting that edge city and boomburb are a subset of Suburb and that there are certain aspects of the suburb definition that do not apply to Bellevue. Think of it as all edge cities and boomburbs are suburbs, but not all suburbs are edge cities or boomburbs. This conversation also took place here.--Bobblehead 02:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

An argument may be made that constituents in Bellevue/Redmond may be deciding this land use "city" or "suburb" question as much as the light rail / transportation. It's interesting Sound Transit – or opponents - haven't discussed much of the land use implications of ST2 and the increasing densities resulting from a “yes” vote.

This isn't particularly wise planning and discourages *individuals* from participating; who has the resources to go against the combined forces of Sound Transit and the City of Bellevue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArchXYZ (talkcontribs) 02:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Famous Residents[edit]

Bill Gates? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.187.154.33 (talkcontribs) 17:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC).

Unless he's moved, Bill's in nearby Medina, WA. --Bobblehead 00:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Bill Gates lives in Medina!

BTW, why doesn't this page site its sources? I'm sure much of it could be linked to the Census page and the city homepage.

Medina IS Bellevue!

No, it isn't. [1] [2]

Its "cite", not site. --DerRichter (talk) 08:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Medina, Washington *is* a separate city from Bellevue, with it's own government. kgrr talk 00:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

What's the criteria[edit]

for Famous Residents?? Anyone? There are some controversy here alfiboy 21:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Ideally, anyone that has an article in Wikipedia or holds/held a prominent position in something with an article. As an example, the CEO of Safeco or member of a band with an article probably warrants mention, but a member of a local band that doesn't have an article probably shouldn't get a mention. Realistically, whoever doesn't get deleted by another editor warrants inclusion. May also consider removing the section complete and creating Category:People from Bellevue, Washington. Famous people sections are generally just filler in an article. --Bobblehead 22:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed Section[edit]

I removed the crane accident because I don't feel it really tells you anything about the city. It really is a news item and belongs on http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/ However, its not really a news item either since it is written as history. I wouldn't make the event into its own catagory (NYC's article doesn't have a catagory for 9/11)

-- 2006 Crane Accident -- On the evening of November 16, 2006, a 210-foot tower construction crane toppled in downtown Bellevue, destroying much of the Plaza 305 building and causing extensive damage to an adjacent building and an apartment building across the street. The upper portion of the crane fell across 108th Avenue Northeast at Northeast Third Street and into a fourth-floor apartment at Pinnacle Bell Centre. Firefighters found the body of a man beneath the wreckage in the apartment. The crane operator escaped with minor injuries.

The crane, which had stood in an excavation pit at the site of the future Tower 333 at 333 108th Ave. N.E., fell eastward and bounced off the north side of Civica Office Commons before landing on top of the Plaza 305 building. King County Journal Article

Form of Goverment/Role of Mayor and City Manager[edit]

Edited to re-add the form of government (with citation), which is more formally referred to as a "Council-Manager" than a "Weak Mayor" form of government, and to amend the description of the respective roles of the Mayor and City Manager, specifically: statements suggesting that the Mayor position is "weak" because influenced by "specific special interests;" that the City Manager's position is "mayoral;" that the City Manager is solely responsible for "framing political issues;" and that the selection of the City Manager receives "more attention" than the selection of councilmembers. These all seem to be statements of opinion best left out unless verifiable. Claudb 07:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

"...that the selection of the City Manager receives "more attention" than the selection of council members." is verifiable. In the last city-wide election, all incumbents were re-elected by wide margins, with one of the Positions uncontested. It will be interesting to see Council's selection for the seat held by Council member Marshall; indeed, the short-list consists entirely of Board and Commission members and former Council member Creighton. This appointment will not be subject to a popular vote until 2009.

Contrast this to the selection process the City engaged in with the selection of City Manager Sarkozy. Council is distracted; many have full-time jobs and three of them have backgrounds in law. Form follows function; it is process, not elections, that drive the decision-making in Bellevue. Process is a managerial function deligated to management, not a popular one in the democratic sense. Most Council members haven't the time to communicate with their constituents. ArchXYZ (talk) 03:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Culture/Demographics Sections[edit]

There is some information about demographics in the culture section. While demonstrating lots of foreign born residents, it should really be in the demographics section, which leads into the culture section anyways. I will move these parts and cite the recent study [3] on diversity in Bellevue (more nonwhites than whites).--DerRichter (talk) 17:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Citation #3[edit]

I would just like to point out, as an amusing note, that this article cites wikipedia and doesnt actually make many claims of its own about what Bellevue is (other than that it is not a suburb). Not that there's any problem with citing wikipedia vicariously through an independent source, but I just thought that was kinda funny. --DerRichter (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

NPOV[edit]

I think it's funny that that Bel-Red corridor section was put in by an unregistered user and I've been looking at the paragraph for 7 months and didn't notice the statement at the end. I guess I should have kept this page on my watchlist --Kraftlos (talk) 09:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Neighborhood names[edit]

I found this PDF map which show's bellevue's annexation history. The list of names are a mix of family names and neighborhood names, I tried my best to distinguish between them just based on what I know of the area (I grew up here). I've never heard of Woodridge or Longmont, but they checked out with the list. I'm going to look for a simplified map, the city has them sometimes in their mailings. --Kraftlos (talk) 10:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

This one seems to simplistic. --Kraftlos (talk) 10:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Woodridge is the name of the hill where Woodridge Elementary is; there is also a pool that goes by that name. I think the second map is more geographical than a map of neighborhoods; I've also never heard it referred to as Richards Valley and Newcastle, Washington is its own city now, separate from Bellevue and different from on the second map. --DerRichter (talk) 15:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I've seen maps like that in their mailings that were slightly more detailed than the second one. The first one has a ridiculous amount of detail. --Kraftlos (talk) 08:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
The second one has a ridiculous lack of detail. Parts of King County are claimed to be City of Bellevue Subareas. Eastgate, Washington for example, is not a Bellevue neighborhood. Eastgate was never annexed into Bellevue.  kgrr talk 00:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I noticed the article on West Lake Sammamish redirects to Bellevue now since it was determined that it's no longer an independent CDP and was annexed in 2001. Indeed, I've checked and this seems true, however WLS is still listed in the King County navbox as a CDP. I'm wondering if it should be removed from the list, and if so, should the area be mentioned in this article as part of Bellevue so people know exactly what it is.Tfosorcim (talk) 21:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Downtown Bellevue article[edit]

I would like to point out that the article for Downtown Bellevue is completely unsourced (not even one external link or book), makes pov claims, and all of the relevant information it contains is already on this article. I will nominate it for merger soon unless anyone else has anything to add. --DerRichter (talk) 08:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Bellevue Climate?[edit]

Hi, I'd like to see something about the climate of Bellevue.

Specifically, I want to know average temperatures, humidity, and rainfall per month. I've seen this on the articles about other cities.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.15.70.176 (talk) 17:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Here is the information: Bellevue, WA Climate
Here is the infobox template you put it in:
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Here is a website that also summarizes the climate for Bellevue: Bellevue Weather
Take a look at Kent, Washington to see how it's done.  kgrr talk 05:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Surrounding cities[edit]

Is the intent to point to articles of only nearby "cities" or nearby "communities" - nearby cities, towns, CDPs and unincorporated communities. So for example, west of Bellevue, there is the town of Beaux Arts Village, Washington but the surrounding cities compass lists Mercer Island, Washington as being the neighbor to the west. Bellevue surrounds a CDP called Eastgate, Washington. Its population is bigger than many of King County's smaller cities. Thoughts? 00:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I like it how it exists. It would be really difficult to create a similar graphic including small communities such as Clyde Hill, Hunts Point, etc. It currently includes the more significant neighbors. --DerRichter (talk) 08:59, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I have extended the navigation blocks towards the east side of King County - North Bend, Washington, but have included some of the smaller communities that are really CDPs or towns, not formal "cities" (referring to the form of government rather than the size of the community). I can understand how in the inner part of King County, one would be interested in navigating through the major cities.  kgrr talk 11:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Material in need of sourcing[edit]

I'm moving to this Talk Page the following list of people claimed by the article to be natives and residents, until these can be properly sourced per WP:V:

Nightscream (talk) 11:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

What is the tallest building in Bellevue.[edit]

What is the tallest building in Bellevue? I was driving through and with all the new buildings I didn't know if it had changed.67.183.50.127 (talk) 03:01, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Joe

For the gamers[edit]

You can find in Bellevue the ArenaNet's offices. It is the city where Guild Wars 2 is being created. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.166.145.71 (talk) 14:44, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Satellite city? Boomburg? Edge city?[edit]

Bellevue can't be a satellite city, a boomburb and an edge city at the same time. A satellite city is a suburb with its own urban core, employment centers and bedroom communities, while a boomburb and edge city by definition don't have urban centers or bedroom communities. I lean towards Bellevue being a satellite city myself. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 18:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Climate record[edit]

The page on Seattle has an unsourced claim that it was 110 in Bellevue on the day in 2009 that Seattle set a record of 103. I've left a query there, because the two pages should be consistent. However, regardless of the answer to that, if the record high for July is 105, the year-round record cannot be 96 (or any temperature less than 105), so I'm going to edit the infobox to fix that in the meantime. Vicki Rosenzweig (talk) 05:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)