Talk:Benjamin Harrison

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Declined reputation[edit]

The article does not really state why Harrison's reputation has declined. He really did not have any scandals. He was relatively honest. Why is Harrison downgraded so much ? Cmguy777 (talk) 05:35, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't know off the top of my head, but consulting the biographies about him might explain it. If I had to guess: it's not that he became unpopular, just that the weak presidency of the 19th century gives 21st-century scholars little to get excited about. --Coemgenus (talk) 13:24, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the response Coemgenus. The reader does not really know why historians give Harrison low marks. If what you are saying is true then that gives this article the impression of prensentism, or simply downgrading Harrison because he was president in the 19th Century. As far as I have read there is no explanation in the article why Harrison is downgraded. Something needs to be mentioned. Cmguy777 (talk) 16:24, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
If historians have downgraded him, it's not for us to question their reasons, only to summarize their scholarship. If you could get the biographies, they might tell you more. --Coemgenus (talk) 01:48, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
I am not questioning their reasons. I am saying there are no reasons in the article for the reader. There is no critically negative scholarship to be summarized. To say Benjamin Harrison was a terrible president but then not to give any reasons or explanation is not historical analysis, but more hearsay or slander. Also it appears the article on Historical rankings of Presidents is being used a source. Wikipedia articles can't be used as a source in an article. Was he a terrible administrator ? Was there out of control scandals ? Presentism is not a reason to degrade a president, is POV, and lacking neutrality. Cmguy777 (talk) 02:12, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
So read the sources and find the answers, if they exist. --Coemgenus (talk) 12:36, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

6 states[edit]

Congress created three new states (VT, Kty, Tenn). The original 13 states of NC and RI also ratified the Constitution & entered Congress in 1789-91, but that at best gives n=5 for George W's years. NC and RI never "left" the Union in 1789--they were still considered states but without a voice in Congress. Rjensen (talk) 02:25, 10 December 2016 (

A note of context for the above comment: Prior to this 12/9/2016 edit, the last sentence in the article's States admitted to the Union section read, "More states were admitted under Harrison's presidency than any other since George Washington's." Arguably, 5 states did join the new Union created by the 1787 Constitution (the 2 that ratified the Constitution + the 3 that were created by the U.S. Congress later on) during Washington's presidency. That earlier statement was factually false however, as 5 states also joined the Union a few decades later during the presidency of James Monroe. The change I made, to "More states were admitted under Harrison's presidency than any other since that of James Monroe." was reverted. Rjenson then shortened the sentence, taking the focus off both GW & JM, and putting it back on the important fact, which is that, "More states were admitted under Harrison's presidency than any other." Drdpw (talk) 19:22, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Should Godlike Orth read Godlove Stein Orth?[edit]

This is a superb article on Benjamin Harrison; however, I'm wondering if there may be an error in Mr. Orth's correct given name. I believe it might be Godlove instead of Godlike. Please see the Wiki entry for Godlove Stein Orth. It seems to be well documented. 8i9 (talk) 18:02, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

You are correct. I've corrected the name and added a link to Orth's article. Indyguy (talk) 19:19, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

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