Talk:Best friends forever

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Proposed deletion[edit]

  • I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Best friends forever, which you proposed for deletion, because I think that this article should not be deleted from Wikipedia. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Warden (talk) 17:45, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Huh[edit]

"Although some really may last a lifetime." Like OMG, this isn't a sentence. LOL. 68.51.66.32 (talk) 23:43, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I removed that wording. Flyer22 (talk) 23:41, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a joke right?[edit]

It is terribly written and poorly sourced. The grammar is terrible, and the article is biased towards a middle- to upper-class American audience. 50.92.38.236 (talk) 03:04, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Probably written by some middle school girls, hilarious but kind of cute lol. Anonywiki (talk) 20:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious source for use of BFF[edit]

While I appreciate the effort to add sources, I'm really not sure that a casual reference to the use of the phrase "best friends forever" in a book on one person's experience of veganism is suitable for making the broad claim that the expression is "typical of teenagers and young people". The source itself only refers to "teenagers" for a start, but the bigger issue is that it's not an expert work on the subject; it's merely a single example of the phrase being used. Ideally we'd have a reference to a linguistic or psychological work here. My inclination is to remove it, but I wanted to give others the chance to discuss first. Gusworld (talk) 07:35, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Gusworld:, just passing through. I'm not sure I even understand the aim of this article, since it seems to simultaneously acts as a disambiguation page, but also attempts to describe adolescent and post-adolescent friendships. If we're trying to get into the nuts and bolts of what best friends are, culturally-speaking, or how best friendships impact human development, I do agree that the people who should comment on that are the authorities in the field of culture, anthropology, human behavior, child development, etc., but I also think such content makes more sense in an article on "best friendships" rather than in an article about the cutesy modern expression "Best friends forever". So, I guess I'm suggesting that the article makes more sense to me as a redirect to Friendship, or to a more appropriate article that gets into the nuts and bolts of "best friendships", if there is one. In its present state, the article is a wordier version of this, and has not improved much since 2010. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 11:56, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to change article's focus[edit]

Proposal: I previously nominated this article for deletion, and I was wrong for doing so. The article in its present state is problematic to me, and I would like to propose one of a few options. 1) Merge whatever appropriate content into the general article on Friendship and/or 2) Convert the article into a disambiguation page for the various uses of the phrase "Best friends forever" as they occur in contemporary usage and/or 3) Re-focus the article on the phrase and about the phrase's impact on society, and remove the dubious statements that try to assert that "Best friends forever" is a type of friendship distinctive from the common concept of "best friends". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:05, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge-and-disambiguate - the phrase and everything discussed on the current page can be adequately covered in Friendship, and there are enough things at the top to justify a disambiguation page. --Stfg (talk) 18:10, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Image caption scribed/inscribed[edit]

Hi. This may sound pedantic but I disagree with the current caption for File:Best Frends Forever - Golden Gate bridge guard rail 166.jpg.

The Wiktionary entries for inscribe and scribe IMHO corroborate the understanding that scribe would be the more appropriate term (with engraving being a primary definition of inscribe and a secondary definition of scribe), but this has been contested. What do others think? Thanks. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 14:32, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am the one who reverted. Here is the OED entry for "scribe", used as a verb. The first section is about specific technical uses. The second section refers to (a) the action performed by a scribe; (b) a rare and dialect use. And here is OED entry for "inscribe". Doesn't "To mark (a surface, column, sheet, etc.) with writing or other characters, esp. in a durable or conspicuous way" fit this rather well? Scribe is not a widely used word outside technical contexts, and is not widely known. Its use here will obstruct understanding for many. If we don't like "inscribed", perhaps we should make do with "written". --Stfg (talk) 15:18, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And here is Chambers for Scribe, v.t.: "to mark, score with a scribe, etc.: to fit by so marking: to incise: to write." The noun used here is defined as "a pointed instrument to mark lines on wood, metal, etc." --Stfg (talk) 15:36, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What do you call that hand-written text at the front of a book that goes, "Dear Cyphoidbomb, Hope you like Shel Silverstein! Love, Grannybomb"? They still call that an inscription, yeah? I'm okay with "written" if "inscribed" is gonna blow the spot up with fistfights. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:55, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As suggested, replacement with "written" would avoid ambiguity. However, I'm sure there's no danger of fistfights! -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 08:57, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support "written" - inscribe to me implies either gouging - especially in the context of metal - or fancy calligraphy. Scrawling in permanent marker does not merit that. BethNaught (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IT'S NOT "INSCRIBED". IT'S WRITTEN ON A RAIL WITH A FRIGGIN SHARPIE MARKER! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:F481:BA00:EC9F:9456:C2AB:2CAC (talk) 06:35, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why this is a big problem worthy of internet shouting. The dictionary differs from your opinion. "to mark (a surface) with words, characters, etc., especially in a durable or conspicuous way." Is a surface marked? Yes. Are there words? Yes. Is it conspicuous? Yes. Is a Sharpie durable? Yes. Problem solved. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:25, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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