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GAR[edit]

Bhagavad Gita[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article (edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · WatchWatch article reassessment page • GAN review not found
Result: delisted Although the nomination for re-assessment is rather vague, I found a number of long outstanding citation needed tags and dead links. The prose could certainly do with a brush up and the organization of the article is poor. I would suggest a thorough clean up, followed by a peer review before renominating at WP:GAN. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:08, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I request the re-assessment of the article bhagavad gita, because :

  • The article does not provide relevant information in the relevant section.
  • The introductory paragraph sounds awkward,as it contains referenced appraisal by some other persons, which is not the way to introduce a major book of a major religion of the world and may not represent a worldwide view of the topic.
  • The article, related to a major religious book is relatively less informative and neutral than the other major religious books of the world , like quran,bible or guru granth sahib.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bineetojha (talkcontribs) 09:59, 28 November 2011 (UTC)‎
    • Comment: I see no evidence that primary editors or projects have been informed, which you should do. I fixed the article talk page as the GAR template had not been transcluded. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:04, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Netaji and Gita[edit]

http://hinduinspiration.blogspot.in/2011/04/netaji-subhas-chandra-bose-truest.html

See this,and include my edit.Ovsek (talk) 05:41, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

  • That blogspot is not a WP:reliable source. --Tito Dutta (contact) 07:25, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
    • Agree, any publications on blogpost are personal blog web sites and per WP:RS they are not reliable sources for this encyclopedia.-- KeithbobTalk 16:32, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

http://orissa.gov.in/e-magazine/Orissareview/2010/Jan/engpdf/18-26.pdf

1. Social Concept: (a) Views on religion, communalism etc,here this is also referred.Ovsek (talk) 07:55, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Etc??Have respect man.It should be also added here as well as in the main article.Ovsek (talk) 04:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

  • I have much more respect for Vivekananda, Bose, Gita than you can imagine! I am a primary contributor of all these articles and portals! You need to concentrate on formatting! --Tito Dutta (contact) 04:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

That's why Netaji accepted monkhood in his teen and used to study Gita constantly(Karma Yoga),these are not mentioned?!Ovsek (talk) 13:37, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Ovsek, I appreciate your passion for the subject and your good intentions to improve the article. However, please be civil and show respect for others. Wikipedia is a collaborative project. This means we often have to compromise and discuss. On other matters, this PDF by Roy seems to be a good source, especially if he is PhD (the article does not specify). A topic like this should have lots of high quality academic sources for use in the article. And what we editors do here on WP is to neutrally summarize the best quality sources on a given topic. So our personal views have to be kept separate from our activity of summarizing reliable sources per WP:RS. So take it easy and work collaboratively with other editors who may be more experienced than you and who can help you to learn the WP policies and culture and work productively within that culture. Many thanks! -- KeithbobTalk 14:49, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you.But I found this also. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-12-20/bhubaneswar/35932625_1_museum-and-exhibits-memorabilia-netaji-birthplace-museum-janakinath-bhawan Ovsek (talk) 05:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Where does it mention Bose was influenced by Gita? I'll see if I can find a source later! --Tito Dutta  (talkcontributionsemail) 05:59, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

http://www.indiaonline.in/About/Personalities/Freedom-Fighters/Subhash-Chandra-Bose.html Read in "Philosophy" section sir.

"Subhash Chandra Bose believed that the Bhagavad-Gita was a great source of inspiration for the struggle against the British." Thank you.Ovsek (talk) 06:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

You can also find it here-http://readanddigest.com/subhash-chandra-bose/ You can also find it in many book. Perhaps nothing is Reliable Source?eh?Thank you.Ovsek (talk) 06:36, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

As it is[edit]

Why is this image in this article? is this even a respected translation?(user:mercurywoodrose)108.94.0.171 (talk) 04:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Correct, irrelevant image in the lead section. Did not have not free rationale too. I have removed the image. --TitoDutta 04:40, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks, i had not worked here before, and was concerned it was not being watched.(merc) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.94.0.171 (talkcontribs) 06:52, 17 August 2013‎ (UTC)
  • Generally messages at talk page are answered. But, sometimes we miss talk page messages too. In such situation there are other ways to get help, asking at Help Desks, Teahouse, related WikiProject Noticeboards (for example here WikiProject Indian and WikiProject Hinduism, if you see top of this page, you'll find the links). --TitoDutta 07:02, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Influence-section[edit]

I think this whole influence section is quite useless. It does not tell what the influence of the BG is or was; it only gives some appraisal. If anything can be discerned from this, then it is that the BG apparently plays a central role in Neo-Vedanta (yeah, yeah, here he goes again...) But what this role is, and why, how it influenced those people: nothing about it. This book might be interesting in this respect. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 21:05, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

About half of the section seems influence, half seems appraisal. Your book reference looks potentially valuable. Your summary of what's in the section does not seem accurate. Regards -- Presearch (talk) 00:50, 25 November 2013 (UTC)


A deliberate irresponsible editor?[edit]

The Bhagavad Gita is NOT dated by it's written text, its dated by its ORAL history of kings,tribes,land marks and so on, The gita was handed down over thousands of years by mantras, take BUDDHISM for example, buddhism was handed for 500 years as mantras before it was finally written down in Sanskrit/pail ect, before that time the monks would pass Buddha scriptures down in vocal mantras.

The Bhagavad Gita Means, THE SONG OF GOD! pay attention to the word SONG, the gita is not dated in written form just like the Torah is not dated just in its written form of 400bc, we know that the scriptures state that Krishna city was washed over by the sea and that city has been found in Dwarka, The history channel made this clear that artifact brought up in that location sailed past the 5000bc mark which is correct with indian scholars, i do not want to hear this page being influenced by out dated European scholars from the 19th century to 1995, we live in 2013 so be kind enough to treat this page with respect to its correct dating of the Gita.

Even the Jewish page has stated its book was in oral form first, i mean is this page being edited by a educated hindu or just a christian who wishes to not give the full information?82.38.161.217 (talk) 18:33, 5 December 2013 (UTC) markvedic

Please read WP:RS regarding reliable sources, and WP:GOODFAITH and WP:PERSONAL regarding "is this page being edited by a educated hindu or just a christian who wishes to not give the full information" - and refrain from such statements! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:55, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
  • +1 with Joshua Jonathan TitoDutta 20:21, 5 December 2013 (UTC)