Talk:Big five game

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No giraffe[edit]

This is almost right - but the giraffe has NEVER been big five. What South African bank note has a picture of it? Its a Cheetah.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.191.82 (talkcontribs)

Adding to the article[edit]

Any chance of adding to this article. It seems innapropriately short. 88.155.36.98 09:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes please add. Anyone got a pic of a cheetah?--Polygamistx4 01:17, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

CITES[edit]

CITES should be mentioned in the article. As techinically you can only import African Elephant/Cape Buffalo and can not import the other 3 (As they are in CITES App 1). This somtimes effects legally taken trophys being transported to countries who have restrictions on importations.Not all countries signed the treaty. Not all countries that signed the treaty enforce all or any of the restrictions of the treaty. So what do people think? People who know what they are talking about! Not biased anti hunting thanks!--203.192.91.4 14:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Different countries have different national laws on endangered animals. End of story. Captain Obvious strikes again. 21:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Black Rhino only Not White[edit]

It has always been Black Rhino and never the White Rhino in the Big 5. The fact that only 10 Blacks can be hunted a year legally only starting 3 years ago, does not mean the White Rhino can now be included. Its a great marketing tool by those who supply hunts in Africa, but its not part of the Big 5. Including the White is the same as saying you are using the origonal recipe but using a substitute item. Its just wrong! Since its a saying that was invented over 100 years ago and nobody owns. It can not be updated by any means. Why not change the animals because of cost, easy to hunt, location? It just can not be done even if others are incoprrectly changing the definition of somthing they do not have the right too.--203.192.91.4 (talk) 09:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Can this be cited? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd like to see a cite. Most of the things I've read just said "rhino" or "rhinoceros". Vultur (talk) 21:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
http://www.thesafariguide.net/fauna-flora/the-big-five. I'm trained FGASA Field guide and it's correct that the white rhino mistakable is a part of the Big Five. Only modern term and laziness have caused people think it's a part of the Big Five. 95.209.240.81 (talk) 15:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

The Safari Club International does not differentiate between the two species. The black rhino can be darted and is considered as being successfully hunted. DeusImperator (talk) 21:58, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Species or subspecies?[edit]

Are there two distinct species of the African elephant (as the article implys) or it was meant two distinct subspecies, which i think would be the right thing.--96.239.0.223 (talk) 22:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

There are now considered to be two different species: Loxodonta africana and Loxodonta cyclotis.Vultur (talk) 21:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  1. Autochthony writes - some people - including some scientists suggest that the Pygmy Elephant is separate from bothe the Savannah Elephant and the Forest Elephant Loxodonta africana and Loxodonta cyclotis respectively.

Autohthony wrote - 2010.10.02 22 15z. 86.167.117.177 (talk) 22:15, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Why not big six?[edit]

Why are only these five species interesting for big-game hunters? Why no big six including zebras? Or big seven including gepards? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.203.86 (talk) 22:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Because "Big Five" is a term used in reliable sources and that's what we rely on. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 00:19, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Crocodile and Hippo[edit]

Should the crocodile and hippo be included in the big five as well, making it the big seven. The crocodile and hippo, along with the buffalo, cause the most human deaths of any animal in Africa and would also be challenging trophies for big game hunters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.175.248 (talk) 23:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

The "Big Five" is a well-documented term and we are only discussing what reliable sources report about it. We can't simply add things to it. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 00:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Things to improve[edit]

It would be nice to expand this article as follows:

  • a couple of paragraphs about hunting each species - difficulty, terrain, stalk vs bait, day vs night, etc.
  • discuss guns and cartridges appropriate to this kind of hunt.
  • Maybe famous hunters
  • relative cost?

And whatever else someone can think of. All with reliable sources of course. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 01:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks on the Rhino correction. Agree with the way it is put DeusImperator (talk) 01:28, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Safari Club International does not make a differentiation as to whether the rhino is white or black. DeusImperator (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

The Western Black Rhinoceros is extinct by hunters. Why wouldn´t you say a word about the catastrophy of worldwide extinction through killing by persons who are not able to say anything about species population size than: " not available". Wild animals have the right to exist without being used (up) by people. Think about any worth od a animal except being killed in any way by you, hunters. There are biologists who can estimate the vulneability of a species based on scientific research. As you see on the IUCN red list of threatened species, the conservation status they are NOT widely spread, except the buffalo. That means all of them needs to stay alive to regenerate the population. Shoot a picture to take home. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.89.114.24 (talk) 14:13, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


Lion endangered?[edit]

"The lion and African bush elephant are classified as Endangered." But the lion article taxobox shows it as Vulnerable instead. 98.194.35.233 (talk) 00:22, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Hydrostatic shock[edit]

Really claiming lions are susceptible to hydrostatic shock? What is with this? Its not even proven how can you know they are susceptible to it? That is pure speculation. Citation needed tag added --Youngdrake (talk) 20:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Other dangerous game.[edit]

When you search for "dangerous game", the only thing you get that's actually related to a subject on hunting animals is a link to this page. I'm not a hunting expert, but I don't think that these five animals are the only animals in the world that are considered "dangerous game". I'm pretty sure that bears are dangerous game. Alligators and crocs can be, I'm pretty sure. So there must be a better place to direct people too..45Colt 04:56, 6 November 2015 (UTC)