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Reality of yellow bile and ichor[edit]

Note: I havn't made this change myself, as I'm not keen on getting the wording right and all.

The final paragraph on this article calls "yellow bile" Ichor. Ichor's page speaks of a mythical mineral in the blood of Gods, or something similiar. This sentence makes it sound more like it's real though.

The wikipedia article on Bilirubin mentions that a component of Bile, Bilirubin, is yellow in colour. Is this what the writer meant by it?

Bilirubin is a yellow breakdown product of haem (heme in American English). Haem is a special ring shaped molecule that is found in haemoglobin. The haem ring holds the iron atoms of haem and is essential to the oxygen carrying capacity of blood. 24.76.141.132 22:14, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No, Ichor refers to the four humors view of "bile". It has no relationship with the bile we know, which is actually green more than yellow. JFW | T@lk 23:02, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Some sort of clear seperation between the section on the humours view on bile and the other part might be useful. 24.76.141.132 (Offtopic: look at me, my IP remains static! Frightening from a normal consumer ISP.)
Thanks for the addition. --24.76.141.132 02:30, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Bears in Chinese medicine[edit]

Can someone make an article about using bear's bile in the making of a chinese traditional medicine? it's cruel..


  • You can. --Anonymous? Moabalan?

What is the pH[edit]

whats the pH value of bile

I saw the "Bile is alkaline[citation needed]" so I googled it. Bile has a pH of "7.8" [1] or "5 to 6" [2], and many other contradictory values. Best I can find is [3], a paper that discusses changes in measured bile pH over time. It found that the pH of common duct bile (7.50 to 8.05) is higher than that of the corresponding gallbladder bile (6.80 to 7.65) and that it becomes more acidic in the gallbladder the longer you go without eating, though resting slows this fall in pH. It references older papers: gallbladder bile 5.6-8.0 liver bile 6.2 to 8.5 Altman (1961); normal gallbladder 6.5-9.0, abnormal 6.9-8.0 Crawford and Brooke (1955) but notes these earlier studies made no apparent effort to control for air exposure or temperature change of samples. Anyway, given all this, the "bile is alkaline" claim seems false (well, OK, it is on average, but not always...), so I'm updating it. DewiMorgan (talk) 21:46, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The citation matter is a serious issue ...[edit]

... that needs to be addressed. Large blocks of factual information that cannot possibly be common knowledge appear without citations—as do, in at least two cases, entire sections. They are either plagiarized, or are original research. The tag indicates a problem since 2011. This is years. Take action, this embarrasses the encyclopedia.

Fluid is not the same as liquid[edit]

 Bile or gall is a dark green to yellowish brown fluid

Does Bile consist liquid and/or gas, as the word fluid implies, or is it simply liquid?

Fawby (talk) 15:50, 20 November 2016 (UTC)