Talk:Birkenhead School

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assess[edit]

Good school - poor article. Look at others Victuallers 10:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


An Old Birkonian who does not have an entry in Wikipedia should not be listed as a famous old boy. Some of the people currently listed seem to me to be unlikely ever to deserve a separate biographical entry. JMcC 08:27, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

First off, juust because the links are red at the moment does not mean they should be removed. This is not Wikipedia policy. Second, all these individuals have an entry in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, the definitive list of notable British historical personages, and if they have an entry in that I think they definitely deserve an entry here, considering some of the relative nobodies who do get an entry. Who do you think is not notable enough to be listed? -- Necrothesp 20:34, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
You are quite right. If they are in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, they must have done something notable. I am just displaying my ignorance in admitting I have not heard of them. I had thought that the fact that they were still in red was a good sign that they had't done anything really noteworthy otherwise they would already have an article. However Wikipedia is still young and after writing up Philip Toosey I realise this is a mistake.JMcC 09:59, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Poor article with the school rapidly following suit. L1v3rp00l (talk) 00:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

The inspectors have just paid a visit, so a more objective opinion will be published shortly. JMcC (talk) 18:30, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

sixth-form[edit]

"Sixth-form" means nothing to me. Is this like sixth grade? Perhaps the article could explain in parentheses what this is. Also the article uses it hyphenated and lowercase ("sixth-form") and unhyphenated and uppercase ("Sixth Form level"). It should probably be consistent. Volfy 17:52, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Easy to forget such things as sixth forms are not universally understood, especially since the number system starts at the age of eleven and the sixth form covers two years! Link now added to explain. JMcC 00:39, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Location is mis-described[edit]

Why describe this fine Merseyside institution as being in the modern and anonymous "North West" region? The modern term for Merseyside is Greater Liverpool, sometimes shortened simply to Liverpool, but never the "north west". Cronkite3355 (talk) 19:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It is within North West England, but not within Greater Liverpool. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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Arthur Sloman[edit]

I found this on a genealogy page. I don't think he merits an article, nor a mention on the list of notable masters. I give notice of his impending deletion unless an archivist can say otherwise

The Reverend Arthur Sloman was a scholar of Pembroke College, Oxford and later, Master of the King’s Scholars at Westminster School. He was appointed Headmaster of Birkenhead School in 1886 and at his first school speech day in July that same year he said: “School life has become disorganised by the departure of three Headmasters in a little over two years. It is my task to bring a steadying and vivifying influence to bear on the School life.” The late Lord Birkenhead, who was one of Sloman's pupils and a Government minister at the end of WW I and in the 1920s, spoke of Sloman's scholarship, charm of manner, example and personality. However he doesn’t seem to have been very strong on discipline or supporting his staff: This, and other reasons, may have led to the decline in school numbers to fewer than 100 with only two boarders, by the time he left in 1897. The “Birkonian” of April 1897 writes of “his aim to make every boy not merely a scholar, but, in the highest sense of the words, a gentleman and a Christian…” Arthur Sloman became honorary Canon of Ely Cathedral, and later of St Alban's Abbey, and died in Jan. 1920. JMcC (talk) 16:16, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Though personally I'd find a list of past heads quite interesting, the unexplained inclusion of this one (apparently not especially notable) head on the list of notable masters seems a little odd. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:15, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
In my day one of the houses was named after him. Perhaps that's why someone included him. (Having been in Bushell's myself, I'm glad to see that he is notable!) --GroupCohomologist (talk) 20:09, 31 December 2016 (UTC)