Talk:Birmingham, Alabama

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ACIPCO[edit]

Economy: The American Cast Iron Pipe Company (ACIPCO)is not mentioned at all, this should change. More info can be fond on this site http://www.acipco.com/about.cfm Smittycity42 04:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)smittycity42[[Category:]]

Agreed. Why not go ahead and write it? -- Alarob 19:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Sure, I think ACIPCO could find a place in this article. I wouldn't venture to write it myself, as I know very little on this specific topic, but I can see it in the article. Smittycity42, go for it. AuburnPilotTalk 20:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Looks like I neglected to check back here... Sorry about that, there appears to be an ACIPCO page already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Cast_Iron_Pipe_Company so it just needs to be linked. I can do that if it's alright.Smittycity42 (talk) 04:40, 14 October 2010 (UTC)smittycity42
I added reference to American Cast Iron Pipe Company and Wiki linked it in the Economy section of the article.--Liaws (talk) 21:46, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

KKK[edit]

Birmingham is also the National headquarters for the [Ku Klux Klan](KKK) ironic isn't it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arterycommunications (talkcontribs) 03:40, 23 January 2010 (UTC) link title —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arterycommunications (talkcontribs) 03:52, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd love to see your source for that assertion. Neither of the websites I found claiming to be the official site of the KKK gave an address in Alabama; one is based in Texas and another in Arkansas. --auburnpilot talk 04:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
True or not (KKK can identify multiple organizations), I don't know why that would be considered "ironic". 198.70.193.2 (talk) 15:50, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Civil Rights[edit]

I made an edit to the Civil Rights section linking it with information on Anniston Alabama and the Freedom Riders, is there a reason the edits didn't go through? I cited everything pretty well. User: SitSemperPeius —Preceding undated comment added 18:06, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

"Port Birmingham"?[edit]

I have never heard of "Port Birmingham"; while I lived there I can only remember it being called "Birmingport". 198.70.193.2 (talk) 15:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

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Introductory Section[edit]

Personally, I enjoy large introductory sections... however, to the common user, I can't help but think that the current introductory section is entirely too large. I'm good at making things concise, so I'd be glad to take on the challenge; however, I think we need to decide what information is most important to present in the initial "presentation". Yes, Birmingham is a great/large city, but there is no reason why its introduction should rival NYC's. The city has a lot to tell, but it shouldn't take so much initial space.

Give me your opinions. I won't change a thing if we all present a legit reason not to. AlaGuy (talk) 06:19, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

The lead section is a tad wordy. For example, there's too much detail about UAB.
Should you want to rework the lead please review WP:LEAD first. You may also want to see one or two examples of well-crafted FA-class articles about cities to see how they handle lead sections. Majoreditor (talk) 04:12, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Earthquakes[edit]

What does "The Birmingham area is not prone to earthquakes, yet historical activity is around 60% smaller than the US average" mean? I cannot interpret it at all!203.184.41.226 (talk) 21:44, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

I can't speak specifically about Birmingham , but Alabama does experience an occasional mild earthquake. The state has earthquake codes, but minor compared to like California. I guess the last part of that is saying Birmingham experiences 60% fewer earthquakes than the US average, whatever that is.

Structure[edit]

Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 (talk) 16:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Intercity bus service[edit]

Praytell, what is the objection to listing the fact that Greyhound provides intercity bus service to this city? Myself and another editor have been repeatedly reverted for adding that fact. John from Idegon (talk) 03:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I have done a bit of research, and Megabus (North America) also provides intercity bus service to Memphis and Atlanta. I am going to re-add the bit about Greyhound again and also add the bit about Megabus, both referenced to the companies' websites. I really do not understand what the brouhaha is about adding informative info for the readers of this article. What else would you propose referencing intercity bus service to besides the companies' websites? Calling that spam is ludicrous. John from Idegon (talk) 03:19, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Someone beat me to it on re-adding Greyhound, but I added a bit about Megabus. John from Idegon (talk) 03:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
  • This seems all fine now, thanks. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:33, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Timeline of Birmingham, Alabama[edit]

What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 09:03, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Suburbs[edit]

I don't believe that Talladega, Clanton, or Cullman should be included as Birmingham suburbs. They are far too distant to logically be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.137.212.237 (talk) 01:27, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I agree, Jasper really isn't either. It's closer than Cullman but farther than Clanton. 209.142.164.193 (talk) 21:38, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Is there a way to refer to sources instead of just sharing personal judgments? --Dystopos (talk) 15:28, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Councilman brawl[edit]

I wanted to discuss content that might be worth adding before I did so myself to avoid WP:NOTNEWS. The mayor of Birmingham and a council member were recently involved in what CNN described as a "brawl" at a city council meeting. The council member was charged with third degree assault. I was thinking about adding this information to the Government section, but it seems a bit out of place there. I'd like to hear what others think. Meatsgains (talk) 23:26, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

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Slavery by Another Name[edit]

Slavery by Another Name is one of the most important histories of the industrial development of the South written recently. It was the subject of a PBS miniseries, and is the subject of its own Wikipedia article. This book is taught at universities. I am sorry I do not know how to source it other than to link its Wikipedia article. But equally, what precedes it is an unsourced assertion that 'economic opportunity' drew black people to Birmingham. Yet this sourced statement, summarizing this book in one sentence, has been reverted twice. Has either of you read this book?

I am terribly sorry that the shameful history of white people in the South brings white people in the South so much shame, so much so that they feel they have to hide it from public view. The author of this book received death threats while writing it. But it is worthy of its own Wikipedia article, and it is worthy of being referenced in the article that is its own subject matter.

I am escalating this.

Zweifel (talk) 19:37, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Seriously? You just assume that the only reason someone might remove your additions is that they are white people who are ashamed of a history of slavery and are trying to hide it? Now that's prejudice. Please strike it out, and maybe we can have a reasonable discussion. - BilCat (talk) 21:09, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
My concern is that User:Zweifel's edit to the article made a sweeping statement, but provided a vague reference. The convict-lease system is well documented, and the subject has its own Wikipedia article. This source states that black prisoners were used in Birmingham and in the local mines, while this source states that mostly-black prisoners produced 18 percent of Alabama's coal in 1885. I have not found a source to support that "much of Birmingham's early industrial labor" was convict-lease, though some certainly was. Without exact figures, perhaps a line could be added that "the use of child labor and African-American convict lease labor was documented in Birmingham's post Civil War industrial development". Magnolia677 (talk) 22:29, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
It is doubtful that this is differentiating content about this particular city. I see no need for it here. It's a reasonable certainty that the same could be said for many if not most southern cities. The topic of this article is this city. Adding inflammatory content that is not unique to this city is simply off topic. Especially if the only source you have is one book, which at the end of the day, represents one person's take on it. John from Idegon (talk) 06:12, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

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"(See Wylam Riots 1919)"[edit]

I took this note out, since there isn't a Wikipedia article or a page online that I could find that references them. The Wylam article at B'ham Wiki mentions strikes between 1894 and 1921 and the National Guard coming in in 1919 and 1921. Fishlandia (talk) 13:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

A source for related information: Labor Revolt In Alabama: The Great Strike of 1894, 1965, U of Alabama Press Fishlandia (talk) 16:03, 6 January 2018 (UTC)