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- 1 List of airlines?
- 2 Name
- 3 Images.
- 4 "New routes" sub-section
- 5 Airlines at Birmingham International
- 6 Do not include shop / restaurant names
- 7 Article was moved
- 8 bmibaby
- 9 Ryanair to Fuertevenutra
- 10 Ryanair to Cuneo and Grenoble
- 11 Incidents
- 12 Ryanair seasonal routes
- 13 Anyone willing to re write/update?
- 14 Security
- 15 All BHX sources are dead
- 16 Runway Extension plans scaled down
- 17 Move (October 2010)
- 18 Requested move (October 2010)
- 19 Requested move (December 2010)
- 20 Name
- 21 Additional info for "Accidents and incidents" section
- 22 airblue ???
- 23 Blacklisted Links Found on the Main Page
- 24 Why new International routes removed from page??
- 25 Ryanair Birmingham-Bratislava
- 26 References in 'Runway Extension'
- 27 Cleanup of Passenger Destinations
List of airlines?
How about a list of airlines to this airport???
- Apperently it's been added but I'm missing British Airways in the list, or do they not fly to BHX anymore?^^ 220.127.116.11 13:30, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
- The division of British Airways, BA Connect, which operated from Birmingham, was bought out by Flybe and as such BA no longer fly out of Birmingham. Aircraft in their colours are still operating from BHX, but these are either as part of the Flybe franchaise or for maintenance (again by Flybe). Reevery 14:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Why "Birmingham International Airport (England)", not Birmingham International Airport (UK) especailly when one looks at the list of pages which link here .... ????
We need images of the airport terminals not just the little tram service and logo. A satellite photo would be helpful to show the size of the airport. - Erebus555 12:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
"New routes" sub-section
I have removed the "New routes" sub-section within the "Airlines and destinations" section of the article. This sub-section is simply unnecessary repetition of new routes from the airport already included directly above (and correctly presented in accordance with WikiProject Airports guidelines). It complicates this section of the article by requiring those who update the "Airlines and destinations" section when a new route is announced to also update a second, identical section which in turn provides readers of the article with no new information and only serves to unnecessarily lengthen the article as a whole. Please post your views here so we can try to come to a consensus before simply adding this section again. SempreVolando (talk) 18:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- We dont really need new routes duplicated. This is an encyclopedia not a travel guide and the information in the Airlines and destinations bit is all that is needed. MilborneOne (talk) 11:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Airlines at Birmingham International
Do not include shop / restaurant names
Please note that Wikipedia is not a travel guide and as such individual resturants, shops, etc... within an airport (e.g. Austin Reed, Julian Graves, Yates's Wine Bar, etc...) have no encyclopedic notability. I have therefore removed these in favour of a broader generic statement of available facilities in the terminal in line with this policy. SempreVolando (talk) 14:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have removed the section it appears to be a piece of advertising slipped into the history section, it is not relevant to the history, the provision of retail facilities at an airport is not notable or unusual. It is not a travel guide and lots of other WP:NOTs. MilborneOne (talk) 19:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Article was moved
An IP user has recently moved the contents of Birmingham International Airport (United Kingdom) to Birmingham International Airport, it appears that this was done without discussion. It was also moved with a copy and paste move which is not allowed in wikipedia as it destroys the article history. I have asked the IP user to discuss the move, which if agreed should be done in the correct manner. Thank you. MilborneOne (talk) 20:12, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Bmibaby's website continues to sell tickets from Birmingham to Krakow, Milan-Bergamo and Warsaw. If you believe these routes should not be shown, please discuss this rather than just deleting the information —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmbma (talk • contribs) 16:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Ryanair to Fuertevenutra
Ryanair continue to sell tickets to Fuerteventura on their website for at least the duration of December. Please do not delete this destination without discussing or providing a source —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmbma (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 December 2008 (UTC) See www.ryanair.com and try booking a ticket from Birmingham to Fuerteventura for details... or see http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=08&month=dec&story=rte-en-101208 Pmbma (talk) 19:28, 12 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma
Ryanair to Cuneo and Grenoble
In the incidents section, could the very first incident possibly refer to the airport in Birmingham, Alabama in the USA? Birmingham-Shuttlesworth International Airport I'm not definite but it seems possible considering the source and destination of the flight. Bonzostar (talk) 20:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
- The accident was definately at the UK airport. That is why the UK Air Accidents Investigation Branch investigated and reported on it. Mjroots (talk) 22:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Ryanair seasonal routes
I have re-instated seasonal tags on the following Ryanair routes, because they are demonstratably and verifiably seasonal from the Ryanair Timetable:
- Bratislava (summer seasonal, re-starts 31/03/09)
- Marseille (summer seasonal, re-starts 29/03/09)
- Olbia (summer seasonal, re-starts 30/03/09)
- Poitiers (summer seasonal, re-starts 31/03/09)
- Trapani (summer seasonal, re-starts 29/03/09)
- Trieste (summer seasonal, re-starts 29/03/09)
The Ryanair Route Map does not concur, and clearly uses a different definition of seasonal than Wikipedia, which states at WP:AIRPORTS that the term should be applied to flights that do not operate year round. These flights clearly and verifiably do not operate year round and therefore the seasonal tag is appropriate and has been re-added.
- Incorrect Ryanair's timetable only goes so far into the future therefore they are not seasonal, I also note from youre edits you have stated the same about easyjet, only Grenoble for Easyjet is seasonal, Geneva is all year round. Therefore I have reverted your edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magnalord (talk • contribs) 10:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your responses. The issue I was highlighting was not that the Ryanair routes appear to end (as a result of the timetable not being released so far into the future) but that these routes are not currently operating (i.e. between now and the end of March these flights don't operate). This surely makes the routes seasonal? Marseille and Trapani for example have not operated at BHX since October last year, they are re-starting for the summer but cannot be described as "year-round" routes. If the subsequent timetables released by Ryanair suggest year-round operation then the seasonal tag can then be removed, but as it stands these routes do not operate in the winter.
- As far as easyJet is concerned their timetable suggests that BHX-GVA operates only until 19 April 2009, indeed no flights can be booked beyond that date, so this is presumably a seasonal route as well? It did operate last summer but seems to be winter only this year. Let me know if I am missing something obvious here! Thanks. SempreVolando (talk) 10:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, I would advise you check the destination map on ryanair.com, all routes in grey state they are "all year round". As for Easyjet yes your are right you can only book til the date you say, however that is because the tourist season changes there to summer, you can still and will be able to book after that date, Grenolbe you can't though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magnalord (talk • contribs) 11:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, yes I have seen the Ryanair Route Map, as stated in my first post above it does not seem to use the same definition of seasonal as Wikipedia does. It has been an issue on other airport articles as it lists hardly any summer-only routes as seasonal, preferring to suggest they are year-round! Clearly the routes listed above are not as they do not operate during the winter months; this is the issue and it is what makes them seasonal (not the end date due to timetable cutoff). For easyJet I still don't understand - if they intend to operate the route beyond 19th April why does their timetable state that for BHX-GVA during the summer the route operates only until 19th April, and why are they not selling tickets for the route during the summer (like they are from East Midlands, for example). The route end date concurs with the Birmingham Airport Timetable which also shows the route ending on 19/4, but shows other routes continuing into the summer. Thanks. SempreVolando (talk) 11:43, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Anyone willing to re write/update?
I've just had read through and some of the info is out of date, but is corrected in subsequent paragraphs.
ie. "when the 2nd runway is built", followed by "2nd runway will not be built". And "a new international pier will be built" followed by "a new international pier has been completed". Can the old stuff be written out to take into consideration building completion and up to date planning decisions? WillDow (Talk) 14:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Also, the UAE lounge is now open 
Also, there are some points in the History section which perhaps don't belong in either "history" or "future". Thinking something like "present" be added? The fact that the airport is in Solihull and BCC isnt responsible for planning permission, for example, is something that could be moved from history. WillDow (Talk) 11:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm going to have a play around with the article throughout the course of the day to try and make it more coherent. At the moment its a bit all over the place. Bear with me through the day by not reverting. I'm going to try and use the Heathrow format to improve the article. Any probs about it, please post here rather than revert straight away... Thanks, WillDow (Talk) 09:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
If a breach of security isn't classed as an "incident", then does anyone have any objections to a new section being created to cover this? Something along the lines of Security breach or 2007 Security Lapse etc. The "incident" is already covered briefly in the history section, but for something which was so serious, perhaps expansion in a new section is warranted...?
All BHX sources are dead
BHX has a new official website, and it appears now that all the current sources linking to the old www.bhx.co.uk website are now deadlinks. I'm trying to go through one by one to repair these. Any help would be appreciated. New site is here WillDow (Talk) 15:06, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Runway Extension plans scaled down
Plans have now been scaled back to halve costs. Runway will be shorter and A45 will not tunnel underneath the runway. If anyone has the time, can they update the article?  WillDow (Talk) 08:09, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Move (October 2010)
I propose this is moved back to Birmingham International Airport. The page only redirects to this one. Birmingham in England gets priority over the smaller city in Alabama when it comes to naming pages and the other airport doesn't include the word 'international' in its name. Mtaylor848 (talk) 13:40, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Requested move (October 2010)
Requested move (December 2010)
Is Birmingham Airport and has been since November 2010. Just to clarify - previous to that it was Birmingham International Airport and previous to that Birmingham Airport). I changed the article with ref. There are 3rd party refs if anyone wants to use one. Widefox (talk) 12:04, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Additional info for "Accidents and incidents" section
I believe there was a small collision where an air side service vehicle collided with a parked PIA (Pakistan International Airlines)Boeing 777 registered: AP-BGL
Should this incident be included with the "Accidents and incidents"? or should it be placed elsewhere (if at all)?
Brief info on the incident: http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/forums/interesting-pics-of-the-damage-done-to-pia-b777-15234.aspx
The following link was obtained from the page noted above, and shows the actual damage. http://www.historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11917 Ben.710 (talk) 19:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is not particularly notable so should not be added to the article, a fairly common occurence at airports. MilborneOne (talk) 20:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
On this article it said that airblue stopped it routes on 2 December 2013, yet after looking on the airlines website and looked at the flight schedules it still say that it fly's to BHX as far as 12 January 2014. I have found no information that airblue has stopped the route?? I think the airblue routes should stay on the article until it can be conformed that the airline has stopped flying to BHX. Here is the flight schedules ---> , 12:00, 3 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk)
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Why new International routes removed from page??
Both Biman Bangladesh Airlines and China Southern Airlines plan to operate at Birmingham Airport in summer of 2014, which was confirmed on BHX website with other news and airline websites. The routes was then removed for known reason. Can some tell me why this is so and if it was and accident to be replied onto the main article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 18:39, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Ryanair offers flights to Bratislava 4-5 years already, but Bratislava isnt on the Ryanairs destination list anymore - this route wasnt werent cancelled and its not going to be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 21:38, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
References in 'Runway Extension'
- I have now fixed these references, but sections '2010-present' and 'runway extension' are quite messy Flyer500 (talk) 19:38, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Cleanup of Passenger Destinations
I use this airport often, as it's convenient for me and I travel a lot. I have noticed there is a lot of information out of date. The Birmingham Airport official website is quite comprehensive with information about passenger destinations: http://www.want2gothere.com/bhx/destinations/
- Just note that this is not a travel guide so doesnt really need to be upto date, it just needs to be reliably referenced and dated. Also note that www.want2gothere.com is not an official website just a travel company. MilborneOne (talk) 18:44, 6 March 2015 (UTC)