Talk:Black Box: The Complete Original Black Sabbath (1970–1978)

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Clean up[edit]

Bah. Needs a more NPOV. --Keith, evil dude 00:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

I did what I could with this article.--Keith, evil dude 00:54, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

I overhauled the article, added some graphics, rewrote the whole thing, but I think it sounds a little like some kind of press release. I'm not sure if it's neutral enough.--72.25.9.54

I'd just like to point out that ozzy actually quit sabbath, and geezer butler soon followed, and i think ozzy quit in 1978. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Looloopoo9 (talkcontribs) 09:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Um, no, Ozzy was fired. It is well documented and referenced. Bill Ward has stated in many interviews that he always felt guilty that it was him that told Ozzy that he was fired even though it was Tony Iommi's decision. Fair Deal (talk) 10:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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Remastering[edit]

While I expect the Rhino is closer to the master tape and (presuming it hasn't been fiddled with) probably more true to the original recording, a source is needed for "noticeably superior to the Castle discs".

Here's a site that compares the Castle and Rhino boxes: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Backstage/1303/sv06.htm . Because it is a Geocities page (and therefore self-published), it probably cannot be included as a reliable source. Online fan chatter I've heard describes the Castle as "warmer" and the Rhino as "brighter", which could be from tape generations or just EQ. Both releases are said to be comparable in terms of "clarity" (whatever that means) and headroom.

It would be nice if we could find some sources on the comparative remastering. Otherwise the claim in this article can reasonably be challenged and deleted, even tho I would doubt the Castle release could be "superior". / edg 18:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Track order for Never Say Die![edit]

Especially since the additions to the first album were noted, the track listings on the back cover of the disc vs. the actual order on Never Say Die! appear to be quite wrong. Has anyone noted this anywhere? MSJapan (talk) 05:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)