Talk:Black Kettle

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I was under the impression that since 2002, American Indian, has replaced Native American, as being more politically correct. I was told that the "Native" in Native American implied "savage." Can I hear any other views on this subject? If I am right, we should probably move Native American to American Indian. Any thoughts on this subject will be appreciated. Greenmountainboy 00:02, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I haven't heard. To me "Native" means 'here first'.

Native, means that they are originally from that place. From that point of view, all non-inmigrant americans are native.

But is still a much better term than "American Indian" since the word "indian" comes from the early belief that America was indeed, India.

I would keep the term Native American, since they are an american-born civilization.

i.e.-"ABORIGINAL implies having no known race preceding in occupancy of the region <the aboriginal peoples of Australia>." (http://www.m-w.com/)

Please sign your comments. As far as I'm concerned, political correctness is overrated and the most appropriate term is the person's actual tribe. 66.229.160.94 08:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

There is a Black Kettle Museum but the link at the bottom of the page is no good. Oklahoma Historical Society does not appear to have a page on it; I haven't found an official page. ;Bear (talk) 23:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

However POV[edit]

In 'Medicine Lodge treaty' it states that the relationship between the warring Dog Soldiers and Black Kettle is unclear, but it clearly implies one, by using the conjugation 'however' plus an unsubstantiated association implies that Black Kettles peace agreement was disingenuous. This should read something like "Though, a band (or bands) of Dog Soldiers continued to..." As it stands, it plants a seed, that it shouldn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.98.246 (talk) 09:40, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Washita[edit]

Doesn't mention the women and children killed by the Americans, nor the 1000 horses slaughtered. Doesn't seem to link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Washita_River 88.109.98.246 (talk) 09:50, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

There wasn't a battle there was a massacre that Black Kettle and his wife were murdered in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.123.31.102 (talk) 23:18, 15 February 2013 (UTC)