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Born in Blackpool[edit]

Ian Anderson no nació en Blackpool. Nació en Dumferline, Escocia, el 10 de agosto de 1947. Usuario; Alberto, 27/'1/2017.

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Mileage[edit]

It is more than 30 Miles from Liverpool to Blackpool more like 56 Miles.Also it is only 40 Miles from where i live in Bolton to Blackpool,Manchester is further away from Blackpool than Bolton is.So from Manchester it is 16 Miles to Bolton so from Manchester to Blackpool it would be about 56 to 60 Miles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.71.211 (talk) 10:39, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Sandgrownun[edit]

A person born by the seaside.

p — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.202.235 (talk) 21:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Notable people[edit]

Some of the names listed are very tentatively linked. Roy Walker's from Blackpool because he's appeared on the pier? I'm considering making the list exclusive only to those born in the town. - Dudesleeper 13:11, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree Roy Walker is not "from" Blackpool. He does live in the area though (Lytham) which may have given rise to the idea that he's from Blackpool. Belovedfreak 7 November 2006

Catherine Newman is an eminent sandgrownun who runs the philanthropic division at Leeds College of Music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.195.13.8 (talk) 15:25, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Making the list exclusive to only those born in the town would be a mistake in my opinion as it would exclude then numerous people who, although they were not born in Blackpool were brought up in the town and consider themselves to be Sand Grown 'Uns. For instance the Nolans - only one of the original 5 sisters were (I think) born in Blackpool, yet at least one of them was only a baby when the family moved to Blackpool in the early 1960's and was brought up in the town. Tangerines 00:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd still prefer the list to be exclusively those born in the town. If they are connected to Blackpool, that should be evident in the relevant articles. - Dudesleeper · Talk 14:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

And unfortunately, I still disagree as that would preclude people who are clearly Blackpool bred, and true "Sand Grown 'Uns" such as one of The Nolans who was brought up in Blackpool, yet was not born here. But who is known as being from Blackpool. And yet people like Ricky Tomlinson who was born here, but is only ever associated with Liverpool would still remain. It would also mean that someone such as Violet Carson who was also well known for living in Blackpool and who is buried at Bispham Parish Church would also not be listed.♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 14:58, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


John Robb was born in Fleetwood grew up in Anchorsholme which I believe is in Blackpool. Not sure why someone keeps trying to pretend that he is from Thornton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.223.140 (talk) 10:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I've no idea where he was born or lived, but if you can provide a reference to reliable published source then no-one will complain. --Dr Greg (talk) 18:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/daily-feature/Punk-is-alive-and-kicking.5391969.jp mentions Anchorsholme Lane. Anchorsholme Lane is in Wyre district, although it continues on the Blackpool side of the boundary as Anchorsholme Lane East and West, and it could have been any of these. snigbrook (talk) 22:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Blackpool Council[edit]

Please note that Blackpool Borough Council has now changed its name in official capacities to Blackpool Council. I have altered the relevant items on the page to reflect this. 81.159.229.181 13:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The title Blackpool should lead to the disambiguation page[edit]

I think that the page called Blackpool should lead you to the disambiguation page, and this page Blackpool, England should be renamed as such. This way when people are looking for any of the different Blackpools they can choose the one they want. Sirtrebuchet 22:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

The Blackpool in question is the most famous, therefore I think the article title should remain as it is. - Dudesleeper 00:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I believe it is the only Blackpool of any note. Unless someone can make a case otherwise? Andy Farrell 17:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

On[edit]

"History International: What the Victorians Did for Us: Pleasure Seekers", I had thought that I'd heard that a large pier had been built in 1923.

I now know what they call "swimming pool": lido_(disambiguation); lido_(swimming_pool). One was built in 1923.

&, much of Blackpool Tramway was built in 1923.

Thank You.

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Blackpool and South Shore Merge[edit]

  • Seeing that 'South Shore' is part of Blackpool (not Blackpool 'Borough', just Blackpool) and the fact that the parts of the South Shore that make it notable ie. South Pier, Pleasure Beach, Sandcastle, Blackpool Football Club etc. are already included in the Blackpool article, then yes, they should be merged.

80.192.242.187 23:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC) JemmyH.

  • Agree merge, speedy if possible. --RedHillian 11:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Disagree do not merge. There are other areas of Blackpool listed separately on Wikipedia. South Shore is just the same as say Layton, Blackpool. Tangerines 00:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Yes, merge. As a native of South Shore, I think it doesn't have a distinct identity; only a local would know or care where it turned into Central or Marton, and it is a lot simpler for the reader to find everything under Blackpool. The South Shore page is also very limited in and of itself - poor grammar, not much content, not a lot to stand alone on. Andy Farrell 17:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment The fact that the South Shore, Blackpool article is not at present particularly well written though, (and it is pretty poor to be honest) is not justification for it to be merged with this page. It is a definite reason for it to be improved yes, but not merged. Tangerines 17:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
      • Additional Comment I have also just found a Blackpool article on the GENUKI (Geneaology UK & Ireland) website which has the following entries - "1819 - A man named Thomas Moore built the first houses at South Shore." and "1836 South Shore Parish Church (Holy Trinity) erected." Those entries alone would surely suffice to keep South Shore as it is now, in the same manner that other areas of Blackpool have pages. Website - Genuki Blackpool Tangerines 22:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
      • Should be merged. Town articles should reflect the area the town covers today unless they represent a substantial secondary article covering some notable item of or within the town..—Preceding unsigned comment added by Keithworden (talkcontribs)
      • I believe that while geographically one could argue that Blackpool and South Shore are seperate, officially South Shore is an Italic text areaItalic text of Blackpool and has the same status as North Shore etc..—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmmfood (talkcontribs)
      • Geographically South Shore is in Blackpool. Tangerines 17:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Has the merge idea been abandoned? The merge tag has been long since removed from the South Shore article. Geoff Riley 22:57, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Well nothing has been posted on this before today since April and if the tag has long since been removed from the South Shore article then surely it can be removed from here too? ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 23:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Geoff Riley 23:29, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Removed Spam[edit]

Removed obvious Spam reference to Chorley Nissan. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.176.105.35 (talk) 13:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

"Sand Grown 'Uns"[edit]

I'd like to contest the fact that residents of Blackpool are known as 'Sand Growns'. I've lived here all my life and have never heard that term used.

I live in St Annes and have heard the term "sandgrown'un" used to refer specifically to residents of the Moss as it was in previous decades. A better term might be Blackpudlian but I've not heard that used much either (not by locals anyhow).
I have lived in South Shore up until I moved to Birmingham to attend University in September 2005, and have always considered myself a "Sandgrown'un". When I moved to Birmingham and met other people, I told them I was from Blackpool, several people pointed out that I was Sandgrown'un. Clearly, it's not only Blackpool citizens that associate the term "Sand Grown" with us.
Sand Grown 'Un s is a common Blackpool term, and is not anything to be contested as it is fact that the term is used to describe those born on The Fylde Coast (as opposed to just Blackpool, but it is also used for those born in Blackpool). It is correct to say that residents of Blackpool are not Sand Grown as it is only those born here. I was born here and consider myself a Sand Grown 'Un. Tangerines 20:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I grew up in Blackpool as did the maternal side of my family and "Sandgrown'un" was (and is) commonly used. Blackpudlian was not.

Blackpudlian sounds more like someone who would eat black puddings. I was brought up in Bolton, but I have relatives who live in Blackpool who used to run various guest houses: they have heard people use the term "sandgrown'un", but only visitors. Hope that helps. 09:20, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I was born here and I've never heard the term used, ever. Where did you first hear of it? I've never my family use the term, nor friends. I have never heard the term used on Radio Wave or read it in the Gazette. I never heard it used once at Highfield High or Blackpool Sixth Form. Who actually uses this term? I'd like to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.238.123 (talk) 08:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I live in Bispham, and have heard both "sand grown 'uns" and "Blackpudlians" (Liverpudlians are perhaps liver puddings by the reasoning of the above?). I personally use blackpudlian. Sandgrown'uns is th nickname of the Blackpool Football Club. Ck lostsword 21:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I also live in the Bispham area, and the term "sandgrown'uns" is the generally accepted name for someone born in Blackpool and/or the Fylde Coast area. User:DShamen 10:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
The nickname of the football club is 'The Seasiders', not Sandgrown'uns. I also grew up in Blackpool, and have heard the latter term used about the natives occassionally, but I wouldn't say it was widely used.
Also Bispham born. Sand Grown 'Uns as has been pointed out has nothing whatsoever to do with Blackpool F.C. whose nicknames include The Seasiders and The Tangerines. But they have never been known as the Sand Grown 'Uns. Blackpudlian is also not a commonly used local word, whereas Sand Grown 'Un most definitely is. Tangerines 20:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
The Sandgrounders is the nickname of Southport F.C., perhaps that's the reason for the confusion on the football front? On that note, residents of Southport and indeed residents of the area prior to Southport being built, such as Marshside etc, have been known as Sandgrounders for centuries. Although not providing a definitive answer to the Blackpool debate it might add weight to Sand Grown 'Uns perhaps being a linguistic corruption of the name of residents of their neighbour (or vice versa).Kwib (talk) 15:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
As a regular visitor to Blackpool (I would say that I have been to Blackpool more than anyone else!!) I have never heard the term "Sand Grown Uns" and therefore I believe that if I haven't heard of it then chances are even the most interested person will not really be bothered.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmmfood (talkcontribs)
And with respect, whether or not you have heard of it does not detract from the fact that anyone born and/or brought up in Blackpool is known as a Sand Grown 'Un. Just as the word "Grockles", is often used by locals to refer to holidaymakers.Tangerines 17:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I lived in Blackpool until I was 22 and I have all always considered myself a 'Sandgrown'un', NEVER a Blackpudlian! People often assume the latter due to the proximity of Liverpool, but it is definitely incorrect. Of course it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.185.42 (talk) 17:09, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm from Fleetwood and I have never been called a Sand Grown Un and I have only ever heard people from Blackpool refer to themselves as that and I had never heard the term at all til the mid 90s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.22.161 (talk) 17:32, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Blackpool Ballroom dance?[edit]

What about something on Blackpool's internationally famous Ballroom dance competition? The Jade Knight 17:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyright violation[edit]

I reverted the additions made here by User:Tangerines because it is all taken directly from http://www.blackpooltourism.com/resources/files/2_Blackpool%20History.pdf -- Mufka (user) (talk) (contribs) 19:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

And I am currently in the process of re-writing the early Blackpool History so as not to violate copyright. Tangerines 13:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I have now re-written the article so that it does not violate copyright. And added it back in to the Early History section.Tangerines 23:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Borough v. town[edit]

This page really needs to be changed to represent the town of Blackpool. This is distinct to the borough. There are similar separations eg Guildford and Guildford (borough). It does mean that some of the extraneous (? spelling) can be cut and moved to the other article. Let me know what you think SuzanneKn 19:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I think there are many boroughs/districts/cities where this would be a valid comment but I'm not sure Blackpool is one of them. I was under the impression that Blackpool town and Blackpool borough covered almost the same area. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. --Dr Greg 11:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

A 14-year-old schoolgirl raped, stabbed, put in a mincing machine & possibly fed to locals is not notable?[edit]

I see that the Charlene Downes murder has been deleted, for being "not notable". Now, it may be that to British readers that is indeed the case, but Wikipedia is international, and to most readers in the rest of the world, the ONLY notable thing about this Blackpool is that it is the place where a 14-year-old schoolgirl was raped, stabbed, put in a mincing machine and possibly sold as kebabs by two Muslim men. Seeing all the trivia not deleted, I think we all know what's REALLY behind this notability thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.137.241 (talk) 07:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

And using wikipedia to make point, which by saying, " the ONLY notable thing about this Blackpool is that it is the place where a 14-year-old schoolgirl was raped, stabbed, put in a mincing machine and possibly sold as kebabs by two Muslim men" is clearly what is happening, is not how to edit wikipedia. Nor is adding information without sources. If you want so much to have it on wikipedia then register and create an article about it. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 14:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice try, but as the article's history log for 02:59, 8 October 2007 and 23:08, 9 October 2007 shows, it WAS sourced before you deleted it. The source was The Times: Girl's body "put in mincing machine". The Blackpool crime stats were also sourced - to the Office of National Statistics - and you deleted those under the excuse that Blackpool crime is "irrelevant information" to an article about Blackpool. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.129.68 (talk)

Has the map been corrupted?[edit]

The map doesn't represent the Fylde coastline in the slightest, new map required. Keith Worden (talk) 16:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion for new section[edit]

How about a new (sub?)section for shipwrecks? There have been many over the years, including the Abana and most recently the Riverdance. Mjroots (talk) 08:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Funnily enough I was thinking the same last evening. There was an article in yesterdays Blackpool Gazette which can be used as a source and it is online. It mentions the HMS Foudroyant and others. I will add it if no-one minds, using the content already in the article about the Riverdance, and if any of it is inaccurate and/or there is further information then it can be amended/expanded. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 14:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
It has been expanded, but sooner or later it will need to be split into a separate article. Mjroots (talk) 06:51, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal[edit]

I propose that the article Gay Blackpool be merged into this article. Basically, I do not think that there is enough information there for one article, and not likely to be unless any new books/studies are written on the subject. Blackpool is not big enough to demand being split up yet, and if and when it does, it would be better having more general satellite articles such as "History of". Gay Blackpool was up for deletion in January (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gay Blackpool) and the result of that debate was keep. I myself wanted to keep it at that time but have come to believe that the article now is an unnecessary content fork. (Note: I am not suggesting it is a POV fork.) The article is much smaller than it was recently because I have just trimmed it of a lot of unsourced information that, even if verifiable, would be better suited to Wikitravel or something like that. I have tried looking for more sources for various venues that were mentioned, but came up with no reliable sources. So, basically, this is the amount of encyclopaedic information there is on Gay Blackpool — at the moment — and I cannot see anything that warrants it having a separate article. --BelovedFreak 19:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Merger[edit]

I have conducted this merger and recommended the Gay Blackpool article for deletion Oxfordmale (talk) 16:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't need deleting if you have merged it into this article as it is now simply a redirect into the relevant section on this article.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 22:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

External links[edit]

Just to explain why I have restored the Blackpool4Me link which had been removed stating that it was spam. It is a valid site, owned and operated by Blackpool Council and is not a spamlink. It is part financed by the European Union through the European Regional Development Fund and is a community website for the local community including charities, religious groups and community groups. It also has no tourism or other advertising and is in no way whatsoever a spamlink.--♦Tangerines♦·Talk 18:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Royal Variety Performance[edit]

There doesn't seem to be any mention of this month's Royal Variety Performance, which was held in Blackpool. It's worthy of mention. - Dudesleeper talk 10:21, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Storm city?[edit]

Is Storm City a nickname for Blackpool and if so, shouldn't that be clarified somewhere? It is now used without reference. 85.223.49.77 (talk) 15:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually Storm City is the name of a proposed regeneration project that unfortunately never took off. In 2007 there was a massive hype around the 'supercasino' and then in 2007 when the casino was given to Manchester, much to my delight as I never supported it, Storm City was discussed as a Plan B to the casino for Blackpool's regeneration. It was basically a massive leisure/entertainment/retail complex with different themed areas, theatres, attractions, shops, bars and restaurants and a 'Blackpool Eye' ferris wheel. When the casino was canned in 2007 and a new Council was elected in May 2007 Storm City was discussed as a backup plan. Originally there was talk of a preview Blackpool Eye wheel on a town centre car park in late 2007. However Dreamstorm International, caused a furore refusing to pay the rent requested by the Council for use of the site. After this Storm City pretty much vanished into obscurity as a 'pipedream' as it was clear Dreamstorm had the ambition and the ideas but not the capital. It is a real shame as well really as I strongly supported it, it sounded excellent. I hope this helps you anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christian1985 (talkcontribs) 16:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

What Does (or did) "Pool" Mean?[edit]

What does (or did) the "pool" in "Blackpool" (or for that matter, the "pool" in "Liverpool") mean?

By the way, aparently "Dublin" (the capital of the Irish Republic) also means "Blackpool" in Irish Gaelic.

64.134.237.75 (talk) 18:27, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Update[edit]

The 2011 census results have been revealed the population and ethnicy on this page needs to be updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.30.226.2 (talk) 16:06, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hydraulic fracturing in Blackpool?[edit]

Are drilling companies trying to do fracking (hydraulic fracturing) in Blackpool? If so, perhaps this could be added to the article. 173.89.236.187 (talk) 13:53, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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Just a thought?[edit]

I noticed there are lists of TV/Movie/Songs that mention Blackpool. I thought maybe there might be an interest in adding a game series. Big Fish Games has a hidden-object/puzzle series called Mystery Case Files that has several games in the series taking place at the fictional Ravenhearst Manor in Blackpool. Don't know how much interest there is in adding that, but I thought I'd mention it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.142.5 (talk) 03:28, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Part of this article is on the wall of the Velvet Coaster pub on the seafront.[edit]

The Wrestling section of the sport subsection (which I wrote) has been copied and included in a wall mural about the circus at the Velvet Coaster pub on the seafront. 62.190.148.115 (talk) 13:17, 11 July 2017 (UTC)