Talk:Bo Diddley

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Door-knocking rhythm[edit]

In England, at least, there is a traditional rhythm for tapping or knocking on doors which resembles the Bo Diddley beat. I presume this goes back in time long before BD. I don't know if there is a similar tradition in the USA. I'm not suggesting that this is the origin of the BD beat, but it does imply that the rhythm is a fairly natural one, and not necessarily of African origin.86.173.167.113 (talk) 14:34, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

It's mentioned in the article. Hyacinth (talk) 22:48, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

"Bo Diddley was one of the first American male musicians to include women in his band"[edit]

Doesn't make much sense, so I have changed it. The citation is a dead link also. Mydogtrouble (talk) 23:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

A bio of Peggy Jones, (Peggy Malone, after marrying)who needs a Wikipedia page. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0540493/bio Mydogtrouble (talk) 23:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

First name[edit]

Was his name ELLIS or ELIAS? This is inconsistent at several points throughout the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venqax (talkcontribs) 16:38, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

ELLAS. The errors seem to have been introduced in this edit - I'll revert it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Bo and the Rolling Stones[edit]

I remember reading at the time, probably in Melody Maker, that the bottleneck used by the Stones on I Wanna Be Your Man had been given to to them by Bo — in hindsight, maybe on that 1963 tour.

Can anyone confirm or deny?

Paul Magnussen (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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Meaning[edit]

This Wikipedia article on Bo Diddley currently has the following statement:

'Guitar craftsman Ed Roman stated that an unspecified source says it was his nickname as a Golden Gloves boxer.'

It's not clear, to me anyway, what this means especially as the associated reference only has a similar statement. But after a search on the web, I found this link that says that Bo Diddley tried his hand as a boxer http: //www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/arts/music/03diddley.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 (Incidentally, this NY Times article cites more derivations of the Bo Diddley name than are included in the Wiki article)

As a result I think this is what Ed Roman meant (not necessarily the truth about the Bo Diddley name):

Bo Diddley was a boxer at one time but not very good, hence the description 'Golden Gloves boxer'. From this Bo Diddly was given his stage name meaning 'absolutely nothing'. CPES (talk) 16:28, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

"Diddley"[edit]

I'm concerned that recent edits have changed "Bo Diddley" to "Diddley" throughout the article. In my opinion, "Diddley" was not his surname. The two word name "Bo Diddley" was his nickname, and should have been retained (where we do not use his real surname, McDaniel). I'll be guided by any written advice that exists, but my thinking is that the use of the single word "Diddley" as his name should be avoided. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:41, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Agree 100%. What's next, "Bopper"? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
MOS:SURNAME includes "People who are best known by a pseudonym should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames, unless they do not include a recognizable surname in the pseudonym (e.g. Sting, Snoop Dogg, The Edge), in which case the whole pseudonym is used." Most sources use "Waters" and "Wolf" (for Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf) – they are common last names. However, "Diddley" is not and "Bo Diddley" is seen more often. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:03, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Right. Snoop Dogg is not called Dogg I don't think. 50 Cent is not called Cent. And so forth. At any rate this seems to have been fixed. Herostratus (talk) 15:22, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Captain Beefheart seems to bounce back and forth, between “Beefheart “ and “Van Vliet”, at random? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:35, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
I remember reading some time ago (in his painter phase) that he was trying to distance himself from CB and wanted to be known as Don Van Vliet. Using "Van Vliet" would sidestep the issue. Otherwise repeating "Captain Beefheart" throughout the article would get very tiring. This may be a problem with longer pseudonyms. —Ojorojo (talk) 16:13, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
I think that CB was, in his music phase, routinely referred to as "Beefheart". "Muddy Waters" is an interesting one in that it was originally a two-word childhood nickname, but over time I think "Waters" did get adopted as a sort of surname. In Bo Diddley's case, some sources may have taken the same approach, but to a much lesser extent. I know that there are guidelines that say we should be consistent over matters like this, but in my view it's much more important to reflect what good sources say, avoid any confusion, and to use some common sense over what names are used in articles. For example, I tried to avoid, in this article, referring to "Sausage". Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:44, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Wouldn't want to see you horsing around. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:13, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

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